> I guess I understand your point, but please consider that competent managers do not fall fully formed from trees. I agree. But in my experience the one quali

> I guess I understand your point, but please consider that competent managers do not fall fully formed from trees. I agree. But in my experience the one quality that makes a good and bad manager is simply considering the humanity of your employees when making decisions. > Applying book-knowledge to real life and seeing what works and what does not is actually a solid way to learn. I also agree, but I think you're assuming these managers did this and they did not. If the team was failing it was because the team wasn't following the teachings closely enough and had to be re-educated. > Maybe you could help managers learn faster by giving them feedback? These managers are not interested in feedback or learning. Why would they? They already read all the books.