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And on the other hand, you have the community setting up achievements that I would argue are pretty bad. Parasite Eve, for example, has achievements for beatin

And on the other hand, you have the community setting up achievements that I would argue are pretty bad. Parasite Eve, for example, has achievements for beating each boss without using the game's magic system. https://retroachievements.org/game/11277 https://retroachievements.org/game/11277

cableshaft 3y ago
Yeah, there's a lot of those types on the site. Like Super Mario Bros has Pacifist achievements to complete a World without hurting any enemies or becoming Fire Mario. I'm sure some people appreciate them, but it's not something I'm going to try. https://retroachievements.org/achievement/40405 https://retroachievements.org/achievement/40405
- fallat 3y ago
  Why? It sounds fun! At the end of the day a game is just a challenge to overcome right?
  - cableshaft 3y ago
    I don't have time in my life to tackle every single challenge presented to me, and there are over 355,000 achievements on Retro Achievements, not to mention thousands of speedrun leaderboards and other things. I have to pick and choose (or just play the game and get whatever I get). That particular achievement sounds like it would likely take a lot of time and be quite frustrating to pull off. That being said, I'm not asking for it to be removed or anything. It's just not something I'm ever going to try to complete myself (maybe I'll manage it on accident). Clearly 4.5% of the people who have played the game with Retro Achievements have managed to pull it off.
- lapetitejort 3y ago
  "Beat X without using System Y" is a pretty common achievement though. Half-Life 2: Episode 1 has an achievement that begged me to play the game again: beat the episode while only firing one shot. Being able to beat a game while not using a core system can be a sign of good game design, or an exceptionally skilled player. Look at Super Mario 64 and speedrunner's ability to finish levels with a single press (but not release!) of the jump button.
  - cableshaft 3y ago
    I don't have a problem with them being there personally (op did), just acknowledging that there's quite a few games with those types of achievements. I don't want to bother with them myself, but I know others do, and that's fine.
detaro 3y ago
why is that a bad achievement?
pogeys 3y ago
Another bad style of achievements: RNG-heavy. For instance, to get the “catch shiny Pokémon” achievements in Pokémon Crystal (https://retroachievements.org/game/11841 https://retroachievements.org/game/11841), you have 1/8192 odds on encounter… for each Pokémon, and there are 213 of them.

cableshaft 3y ago

Yeah, there's a lot of those types on the site. Like Super Mario Bros has Pacifist achievements to complete a World without hurting any enemies or becoming Fire Mario. I'm sure some people appreciate them, but it's not something I'm going to try. https://retroachievements.org/achievement/40405 https://retroachievements.org/achievement/40405

fallat 3y ago
Why? It sounds fun! At the end of the day a game is just a challenge to overcome right?
- cableshaft 3y ago
  I don't have time in my life to tackle every single challenge presented to me, and there are over 355,000 achievements on Retro Achievements, not to mention thousands of speedrun leaderboards and other things. I have to pick and choose (or just play the game and get whatever I get). That particular achievement sounds like it would likely take a lot of time and be quite frustrating to pull off. That being said, I'm not asking for it to be removed or anything. It's just not something I'm ever going to try to complete myself (maybe I'll manage it on accident). Clearly 4.5% of the people who have played the game with Retro Achievements have managed to pull it off.
lapetitejort 3y ago
"Beat X without using System Y" is a pretty common achievement though. Half-Life 2: Episode 1 has an achievement that begged me to play the game again: beat the episode while only firing one shot. Being able to beat a game while not using a core system can be a sign of good game design, or an exceptionally skilled player. Look at Super Mario 64 and speedrunner's ability to finish levels with a single press (but not release!) of the jump button.
- cableshaft 3y ago
  I don't have a problem with them being there personally (op did), just acknowledging that there's quite a few games with those types of achievements. I don't want to bother with them myself, but I know others do, and that's fine.

detaro 3y ago

why is that a bad achievement?

pogeys 3y ago

Another bad style of achievements: RNG-heavy. For instance, to get the “catch shiny Pokémon” achievements in Pokémon Crystal (https://retroachievements.org/game/11841 https://retroachievements.org/game/11841), you have 1/8192 odds on encounter… for each Pokémon, and there are 213 of them.