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> You seem to have pulled this number out of thin air, and I cannot see a scenario where this is true. Why? Could you explain why 300k units w/ $200k gross wou

> You seem to have pulled this number out of thin air, and I cannot see a scenario where this is true. Why? Could you explain why 300k units w/ $200k gross would be impossible? Is it not legal to sell unity games below $0.99 each, maybe not even in other currencies? I'd rather be enlightened than shit upon if there's a reason I'm missing why the worst case scenario is 6.7% and not the apparent 10%. You could also add to that why 6.7% is now possible which is more than 2x the 1-3% from earlier? Why do you say you "pretend" in your numbers and accuse me of pulling numbers out of thin air with the technical worst case scenario?

tomnipotent 3y ago
Steam and Epic both have a minimum price of $0.99, not sure about Apple & Google App Stores. Credit card processors have a minimum charge that makes lower prices untenable. > Why do you say you "pretend" in your numbers Where did you pull 10%, happy to go over your math/model.
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- tapland 3y ago
  > Where did you pull 10%, happy to go over your math/model. The example numbers I posted would give 10%. The pricing was easy enough that the 10% worst case could easily be pulled from it. I wouldn't trust the numbers from someone who needed a model to go over to see that and I seriously thought you were joking about not getting where the 10% worst case was from.
  - tomnipotent 3y ago
    I wasn't considering F2P or ad-supported games, so my mental model was seeing $0.99 as the pricing floor. If you want to arbitrarily choose an ARPU, we could get that percentage to any number we wanted to make a point.
    - danShumway 3y ago
      > If you want to arbitrarily choose an ARPU From https://www.statista.com/statistics/263797/number-of-applications-for-mobile-phones https://www.statista.com/statistics/263797/number-of-applica...: > As of July 2023, nearly 97 percent of apps in the Google Play app store were freely available I don't think "arbitrarily" is the right word to use here. Your mental model might have been $0.99 as the pricing floor, but that mental model does not represent the reality of mobile app stores. Paid apps are a minority on both iOS and Android, the dominant revenue model for mobile games is to offer free downloads/installs with advertising and in-app purchases.
    - reitzensteinm 3y ago
      It blows my mind that you open with "The amount of outrage from people with no P&L or game development experience in this thread is unreal" and close with "I wasn't considering F2P or ad-supported games". Your "mental model" didn't consider 80% of the market by revenue?

tomnipotent 3y ago

Steam and Epic both have a minimum price of $0.99, not sure about Apple & Google App Stores. Credit card processors have a minimum charge that makes lower prices untenable. > Why do you say you "pretend" in your numbers Where did you pull 10%, happy to go over your math/model.

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tapland 3y ago
> Where did you pull 10%, happy to go over your math/model. The example numbers I posted would give 10%. The pricing was easy enough that the 10% worst case could easily be pulled from it. I wouldn't trust the numbers from someone who needed a model to go over to see that and I seriously thought you were joking about not getting where the 10% worst case was from.
- tomnipotent 3y ago
  I wasn't considering F2P or ad-supported games, so my mental model was seeing $0.99 as the pricing floor. If you want to arbitrarily choose an ARPU, we could get that percentage to any number we wanted to make a point.
  - danShumway 3y ago
    > If you want to arbitrarily choose an ARPU From https://www.statista.com/statistics/263797/number-of-applications-for-mobile-phones https://www.statista.com/statistics/263797/number-of-applica...: > As of July 2023, nearly 97 percent of apps in the Google Play app store were freely available I don't think "arbitrarily" is the right word to use here. Your mental model might have been $0.99 as the pricing floor, but that mental model does not represent the reality of mobile app stores. Paid apps are a minority on both iOS and Android, the dominant revenue model for mobile games is to offer free downloads/installs with advertising and in-app purchases.
  - reitzensteinm 3y ago
    It blows my mind that you open with "The amount of outrage from people with no P&L or game development experience in this thread is unreal" and close with "I wasn't considering F2P or ad-supported games". Your "mental model" didn't consider 80% of the market by revenue?