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I always thought it was Nixon taking the wind out of the metaphorical sails. He was so bad, even Republicans of the day were grossed out. Cancelling the space p

I always thought it was Nixon taking the wind out of the metaphorical sails. He was so bad, even Republicans of the day were grossed out. Cancelling the space program, domestic surveillance abuse, the extremely cynical Southern Strategy, the Viet Nam war, tons of things done to destroy idealism and trust in institutions.

refurb 3y ago
Jeeze, blaming Nixon for the Vietnam War is laughable. By the time he came into office the US was already on the way out (Lyndon Johnson was already pulling troops out).
- bediger4000 3y ago
  I'm not blaming him for the war that had been ongoing since the 40s, but rather what he did during his administration. He and Kissinger bombed Cambodia. There's some evidence to suggest that Nixon and Kissinger manipulated the 1968 peace talks to give Nixon an election advantage. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/nixon-tried-to-spoil-johnsons-vietnam-peace-talks-in-68-notes-show.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/nixon-tried-t...
  - refurb 3y ago
    Seems odd to single out Nixon's conduct during the war, not the administration that escalated the war, and started it under questionable circumstance.
woobar 3y ago
> He was so bad, even Republicans of the day were grossed out. Nixon was so bad that he won 1972 re-election with 520 out of 528 electoral votes. Or 60.7% of popular vote.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > Nixon was so bad that he won 1972 re-election with 520 out of 528 electoral votes. What happened after that, including both politically for Nixon and in terms of further information about the use of the national security apparatus for domestic political purposes during the Administration (including during the 1972 re-election campaign) that occurred after what happened personally politically for Nixon? (While the question asks what happened in 1971, most of the graphs that show anything show something very minor separation for the first few years after 1971. I think “Nixon icky” is an…incomplete…hypothesis, to the extent that any of the graphs show something real, but I don’t think “but he was re-elected by a wide margin in 1972” is a sufficient dismissal, either.)
  - woobar 3y ago
    He was a crook and resigned because he's got caught. But not because of the laundry list of sins that GP has presented. Seeing "the Viet Nam war" on that list is also funny. Nixon ordered troops withdrawal 30 days after his inauguration. And kept withdrawing more and more through his presidency.
- bediger4000 3y ago
  Still the only US President to resign, and it has come out since, that he was to be indicted if he didn't resign.

refurb 3y ago

Jeeze, blaming Nixon for the Vietnam War is laughable. By the time he came into office the US was already on the way out (Lyndon Johnson was already pulling troops out).

bediger4000 3y ago
I'm not blaming him for the war that had been ongoing since the 40s, but rather what he did during his administration. He and Kissinger bombed Cambodia. There's some evidence to suggest that Nixon and Kissinger manipulated the 1968 peace talks to give Nixon an election advantage. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/nixon-tried-to-spoil-johnsons-vietnam-peace-talks-in-68-notes-show.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/nixon-tried-t...
- refurb 3y ago
  Seems odd to single out Nixon's conduct during the war, not the administration that escalated the war, and started it under questionable circumstance.

woobar 3y ago

> He was so bad, even Republicans of the day were grossed out. Nixon was so bad that he won 1972 re-election with 520 out of 528 electoral votes. Or 60.7% of popular vote.

dragonwriter 3y ago
> Nixon was so bad that he won 1972 re-election with 520 out of 528 electoral votes. What happened after that, including both politically for Nixon and in terms of further information about the use of the national security apparatus for domestic political purposes during the Administration (including during the 1972 re-election campaign) that occurred after what happened personally politically for Nixon? (While the question asks what happened in 1971, most of the graphs that show anything show something very minor separation for the first few years after 1971. I think “Nixon icky” is an…incomplete…hypothesis, to the extent that any of the graphs show something real, but I don’t think “but he was re-elected by a wide margin in 1972” is a sufficient dismissal, either.)
- woobar 3y ago
  He was a crook and resigned because he's got caught. But not because of the laundry list of sins that GP has presented. Seeing "the Viet Nam war" on that list is also funny. Nixon ordered troops withdrawal 30 days after his inauguration. And kept withdrawing more and more through his presidency.
bediger4000 3y ago
Still the only US President to resign, and it has come out since, that he was to be indicted if he didn't resign.