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A lot of places already use the best available technology for transparent, anonymous, and fully auditable voting. It's paper ballots with public observation and

• mc32 3y ago
  Why do vote counts take so long these last few cycles? We used to get results the same evening, maybe into the wee hours, but except for Florida one year where they had recounts, it didn't take long to tally the votes. Now, with electronic voting the results sometimes take more time, what gives?
  • knewter 3y ago
    The answer is sitting there for you if you'd just believe your government acted like humans
    • BitwiseFool 3y ago
      >"The answer is sitting there for you if you'd just believe your government acted like humans" What are you trying to say? I can read this as either 'humans are trustworthy', or 'humans are corrupt'.
      • knewter 3y ago
        Power corrupts
  • b0in 3y ago
    Closer elections means they can't call it quite as early, more mail-in ballots post-COVID (these cant be counted early even if they get delivered early), almost certainly some changes to how we consume the news or how the news presents the details.
    • selykg 3y ago
      The early counting of mail-in ballots, I believe, is actually up to the state. https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/politics/mail-in-voting/ https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/politics/mail-in-voting...
      • mc32 3y ago
        Yeah I think you can count but you can’t publish and therefore “poison” the election.
  • Mordisquitos 3y ago
    Exactly. Meanwhile, Spain uses exclusively paper ballots, counted by ordinary citizens who were randomly selected for "election board duty" in their local voting sector (akin to jury duty in the US), and easily finishes counting more than 99% of the votes cast before midnight on the day of the vote. You can go to bed and expect no major upsets when counting is finished, other than the occasional swing of a single seat from one party to another when the d'Hondt assignment was very close. And this is all for a country of 48 million people (23% more than California), counting votes to fill a 350-seat Congress composed of 50 multiple-seat constituencies of varying size, from 37 to 2 (plus 2 FPTP seats), as well as 208 Senate seats which are voted by check-box selection. It is truly baffling how some US states manage to take so long to finish counting a handful of FPTP positions in federal elections: 1 president, a couple dozen representatives, and 2 senators.
    • Kalium 3y ago
      Each place has a whole series of other offices up for election as well. They're all on one ballot, and staffing is generally done by a handful of senior citizen volunteers. Futher, there are sometimes absentee ballots that can arrive up to a week or more after election day.
• tzs 3y ago
  > A lot of places already use the best available technology for transparent, anonymous, and fully auditable voting. It's paper ballots with public observation and this set of technologies is in wide use. As implemented nearly everywhere that is not fully auditable. I have no way of verifying that my particular ballot was actually included and counted correctly. We can do much better, while still staying with paper ballots, as shown by some of the proposed system in this article [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-to-end_auditable_voting_systems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-to-end_auditable_voting_sy...