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> in their believe they are smart Nice. A happy user of Reddit, the platform, whose CEO edits messages of his opponents to win an argument, that shadow bans us

> in their believe they are smart Nice. A happy user of Reddit, the platform, whose CEO edits messages of his opponents to win an argument, that shadow bans users for mentioning specific words ("Soros" is one, BTW), that automatically sends wrong-think posts to spam... would tell us about the dystopian future Musk is leading us into. What kind of trust do you have in mind, like the one built in soviet times Pravda and Moskovskiy Komsomolets?

gmerc 3y ago
If you believe there is signal value in having consumed reddit content - or see a Soros conspiracy behind every criticism of certain idols, I have some crypto coins to sell you too. Speaking of Soviet Russia - the FSB has fascinating manuals on exactly this topic, how to break down people’s ability to trust systematically to make them vulnerable to ideological hijacking via authority figures and contrarian messages. Highly recommended reading. As we say in German “getroffene Hunde bellen ”.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
  > Highly recommended reading. If one were interested in finding these to read where or how might they be found?
  - gmerc 3y ago
    Google is surprisingly shit today, actively pushing current events over historic ones despite search filters (weirdly reminiscent of LLM attention issues and biases to recency). I’ll see if I can find the primary ones, they are from the archives after the Soviet collapse. Secondary reading: Adrian Chen, “The Agency,” New York Times Magazine, June 2, 2015, and Peter Pomerantsev and Michael Weiss, The Menace of Unreality: How the Kremlin Weaponizes Information, Culture and Money, New York: https://tnsr.org/2022/09/whats-old-is-new-again-cold-war-lessons-for-countering-disinformation/ https://tnsr.org/2022/09/whats-old-is-new-again-cold-war-les... Institute of Modern Russia and The Interpreter, 2014. https://css.ethz.ch/content/dam/ethz/special-interest/gess/cis/center-for-securities-studies/resources/docs/NDC%20fm_9.pdf https://css.ethz.ch/content/dam/ethz/special-interest/gess/c...
- mzsmartpants 3y ago
  > or see a Soros conspiracy behind every criticism of certain idols Idols, Soros conspiracy... And you accuse others of being stupid. A simple idea, shady practices on the part of a platform are not OK if what you want, as you say, is trust. > I have some crypto coins to sell you too. I'm sure you have. You were left holding the bag in the subreddit you've mentioned. > the FSB has fascinating manuals on exactly this topic. Highly recommended reading. Right, they've sent you a copy. You and your government, the idiots who can be seen laughing [1][2] when told they should not depend on Russian energy. "I don't really understand what he means by that ha-ha-ha", tells your genius defense minister. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfJv9QYrlwg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfJv9QYrlwg [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CvQmWoog18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CvQmWoog18

gmerc 3y ago

If you believe there is signal value in having consumed reddit content - or see a Soros conspiracy behind every criticism of certain idols, I have some crypto coins to sell you too. Speaking of Soviet Russia - the FSB has fascinating manuals on exactly this topic, how to break down people’s ability to trust systematically to make them vulnerable to ideological hijacking via authority figures and contrarian messages. Highly recommended reading. As we say in German “getroffene Hunde bellen ”.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
> Highly recommended reading. If one were interested in finding these to read where or how might they be found?
- gmerc 3y ago
  Google is surprisingly shit today, actively pushing current events over historic ones despite search filters (weirdly reminiscent of LLM attention issues and biases to recency). I’ll see if I can find the primary ones, they are from the archives after the Soviet collapse. Secondary reading: Adrian Chen, “The Agency,” New York Times Magazine, June 2, 2015, and Peter Pomerantsev and Michael Weiss, The Menace of Unreality: How the Kremlin Weaponizes Information, Culture and Money, New York: https://tnsr.org/2022/09/whats-old-is-new-again-cold-war-lessons-for-countering-disinformation/ https://tnsr.org/2022/09/whats-old-is-new-again-cold-war-les... Institute of Modern Russia and The Interpreter, 2014. https://css.ethz.ch/content/dam/ethz/special-interest/gess/cis/center-for-securities-studies/resources/docs/NDC%20fm_9.pdf https://css.ethz.ch/content/dam/ethz/special-interest/gess/c...
mzsmartpants 3y ago
> or see a Soros conspiracy behind every criticism of certain idols Idols, Soros conspiracy... And you accuse others of being stupid. A simple idea, shady practices on the part of a platform are not OK if what you want, as you say, is trust. > I have some crypto coins to sell you too. I'm sure you have. You were left holding the bag in the subreddit you've mentioned. > the FSB has fascinating manuals on exactly this topic. Highly recommended reading. Right, they've sent you a copy. You and your government, the idiots who can be seen laughing [1][2] when told they should not depend on Russian energy. "I don't really understand what he means by that ha-ha-ha", tells your genius defense minister. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfJv9QYrlwg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfJv9QYrlwg [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CvQmWoog18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CvQmWoog18