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Laravel Livewire is… frustrating. I used it for 1-2 years and ended up learning Elixir so I could use LiveView instead. Livewires performance is terrible for a

Laravel Livewire is… frustrating. I used it for 1-2 years and ended up learning Elixir so I could use LiveView instead. Livewires performance is terrible for anything other than very basic components. The fact that it has to rebuild state on every interaction makes it a pretty poor tool for most use cases.

yurishimo 3y ago
Not sure if you've seen that v3 was released. Caleb spent a lot of effort to solve many of the performance problems. It's still not as lean as Liveview (and nothing probably will be) but it's much much better than it was.
- stanmancan 3y ago
  I saw it was released but never looked into it as there's no reason to now that I've moved to LiveView. I have other issues with Livewire as well, including how Caleb operates his communities. He has and continues to make a ton of money off Livewire and still provides zero support to the community. Want any actual support? Well that starts at $6,000/year for one support request a month. He doesn't even appear to be a member of his own discord server anymore. Not that it makes a difference; last time I checked had only ever sent 34 messages in there and the last one was in 20202. He has one guy who would randomly show up around once a day and answer some of the questions. I don't expect free support but if your package is so confusing that the community is unable to support each other, you should probably be around trying to help sort that out. Instead, he just keeps doing re-writes which puts the the load on everyone else. Anyways; if you're interested in this type of project I HIGHLY recommend you check out Elixir/Phoenix/LiveView. I haven't enjoyed writing software this much for a long time; not only is the language and framework more enjoyable to work with, but the community is so much better in general.

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Laravel Livewire is… frustrating. I used it for 1-2 years and ended up learning Elixir so I could use LiveView instead. Livewires performance is terrible for a

by stanmancan 3y ago

yurishimo 3y ago
Not sure if you've seen that v3 was released. Caleb spent a lot of effort to solve many of the performance problems. It's still not as lean as Liveview (and nothing probably will be) but it's much much better than it was.
- stanmancan 3y ago
  I saw it was released but never looked into it as there's no reason to now that I've moved to LiveView. I have other issues with Livewire as well, including how Caleb operates his communities. He has and continues to make a ton of money off Livewire and still provides zero support to the community. Want any actual support? Well that starts at $6,000/year for one support request a month. He doesn't even appear to be a member of his own discord server anymore. Not that it makes a difference; last time I checked had only ever sent 34 messages in there and the last one was in 20202. He has one guy who would randomly show up around once a day and answer some of the questions. I don't expect free support but if your package is so confusing that the community is unable to support each other, you should probably be around trying to help sort that out. Instead, he just keeps doing re-writes which puts the the load on everyone else. Anyways; if you're interested in this type of project I HIGHLY recommend you check out Elixir/Phoenix/LiveView. I haven't enjoyed writing software this much for a long time; not only is the language and framework more enjoyable to work with, but the community is so much better in general.