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Negative articles get views. I'm really enjoying Starfield, it's great. End of story. (Proof that positive stories don't get views)

dimgl 3y ago
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- philipov 3y ago
  Everything I've heard is that this is the least buggy release for a Bethesda game ever. This does not mean it doesn't have serious quality problems; it means Bethesda has never managed to do better, and people love their games despite that. Expectations have been satisfied, because they started low. The savvy gamer knows to wait 6 to 18 months before playing.
  - dimgl 3y ago
    > Expectations have been satisfied, because they started low. I am a huge Elder Scrolls fan (Oblivion, Skyrim) and I loved Fallout 3. It was possible to excuse the jank in those games because they were innovative and immersive. I didn't find this to be the case with Starfield. In a vacuum where only Bethesda games exist Starfield is an improvement, but in relation to other experiences Bethesda games are now severely behind. It's especially noticeable if you play a game like Baldur's Gate 3 and compare the two.
    - philipov 3y ago
      I'm still playing BG3 as well, and I have no plans to pick up Starfield until next year at the earliest. This was my plan from the beginning, because we can't rely on Bethesda to release quality craft. People should adjust to this by not buying their games on release. Poor sales is the only language they speak.
- rimunroe 3y ago
  I've been thinking about enjoying games despite their flaws a lot lately in the context of game criticism. The extreme reactionary behavior of the gamer populace as a whole--even to something as mild as pointing out an issue in a game's menu design--is unsettling. Every time I play a multiplayer game and either I or someone else mentions--in the most dispassionate tone possible--something we think is an issue with the game or an idea for a way to improve it, at least one (and usually several) people react as though we're saying the game is trash. They almost always say something like "then go play something else". It's incredibly consistent. Because of this kind of stuff, I mostly stick to single player games and stay away from game-specific communities[1]. I don't see this kind of thing to anywhere near this degree in any of the other hobby/interest circles I'm exposed to. People seem happy to discuss issues in their favorite shows, movies, and books. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of this is just due to the population I'm exposed to of people who discuss games (I assume) skewing significantly younger than those for other hobbies. [1] the only gaming community I do hang around are the comment sections of Rock Paper Shotgun articles. The people there seem in general just much more willing to accept critiques of games
deprecative 3y ago
I'm playing it because I got it for free(read: Game Pass). The glitches are bad, the writing is pretty bad despite having good moments, the progression is pretty shoddy. End of story. Right?

dimgl 3y ago

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philipov 3y ago
Everything I've heard is that this is the least buggy release for a Bethesda game ever. This does not mean it doesn't have serious quality problems; it means Bethesda has never managed to do better, and people love their games despite that. Expectations have been satisfied, because they started low. The savvy gamer knows to wait 6 to 18 months before playing.
- dimgl 3y ago
  > Expectations have been satisfied, because they started low. I am a huge Elder Scrolls fan (Oblivion, Skyrim) and I loved Fallout 3. It was possible to excuse the jank in those games because they were innovative and immersive. I didn't find this to be the case with Starfield. In a vacuum where only Bethesda games exist Starfield is an improvement, but in relation to other experiences Bethesda games are now severely behind. It's especially noticeable if you play a game like Baldur's Gate 3 and compare the two.
  - philipov 3y ago
    I'm still playing BG3 as well, and I have no plans to pick up Starfield until next year at the earliest. This was my plan from the beginning, because we can't rely on Bethesda to release quality craft. People should adjust to this by not buying their games on release. Poor sales is the only language they speak.
rimunroe 3y ago
I've been thinking about enjoying games despite their flaws a lot lately in the context of game criticism. The extreme reactionary behavior of the gamer populace as a whole--even to something as mild as pointing out an issue in a game's menu design--is unsettling. Every time I play a multiplayer game and either I or someone else mentions--in the most dispassionate tone possible--something we think is an issue with the game or an idea for a way to improve it, at least one (and usually several) people react as though we're saying the game is trash. They almost always say something like "then go play something else". It's incredibly consistent. Because of this kind of stuff, I mostly stick to single player games and stay away from game-specific communities[1]. I don't see this kind of thing to anywhere near this degree in any of the other hobby/interest circles I'm exposed to. People seem happy to discuss issues in their favorite shows, movies, and books. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of this is just due to the population I'm exposed to of people who discuss games (I assume) skewing significantly younger than those for other hobbies. [1] the only gaming community I do hang around are the comment sections of Rock Paper Shotgun articles. The people there seem in general just much more willing to accept critiques of games

deprecative 3y ago

I'm playing it because I got it for free(read: Game Pass). The glitches are bad, the writing is pretty bad despite having good moments, the progression is pretty shoddy. End of story. Right?