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Dutch groups sue Google over alleged privacy violations

49 points by hassanahmad 3y ago

Vinnl 3y ago
Dutch people can join in via https://www.consumentenbond.nl/acties/google-claim https://www.consumentenbond.nl/acties/google-claim.
- Sander_Marechal 3y ago
  Thank you! Signing up now.
  - sim7c00 3y ago
    u can also add that facebook one if u had an account :P it's via the same site. once u signed up u can see what claims are open. - handy site. I guess we do like free stuff here :D Never once had a pay out, but its free to sign up so its like a bit of a free lottery with small prices :')
jiofj 3y ago
They are asking for 750 euros per user. How was this number calculated?
- RugnirViking 3y ago
  As I understand its common to ask for far more than you expect to be granted. thats just how these things work - they get pushed down from the starting point in the complaint. Its probably some multiple of per user earnings from google's own public numbers plus some extra for punitive damages
skilled 3y ago
Relevant, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37477390 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37477390 (no comments) https://www.consumentenbond.nl/nieuws/2023/google-voor-de-rechter-gedaagd https://www.consumentenbond.nl/nieuws/2023/google-voor-de-re... (in Dutch) https://stackdiary.com/dutch-consumers-rally-against-google-in-privacy-violation-claim/ https://stackdiary.com/dutch-consumers-rally-against-google-... (from the submission above)
JustLurking2022 3y ago
Other than saying "ad targeting bad", not much to go on here - the article makes no reference to the specific laws plaintiffs believe Google is violating
- sim7c00 3y ago
  From the description on the consumer service's site: ------ Google schendt elke dag jouw online privacy en volgt stiekem je fysieke locatie. Google verzamelt, analyseert en deelt gegevens over jou met anderen en verdient daar miljarden aan. Zonder dat je daar iets tegen kunt doen. Dit is een inbreuk op jouw privacy. ------ This translates to: ------ Google violates your privacy daily, and follows your physical location _secretly_ . Google collects, analyses and _shares_ data about you with others and earns billions from it. Without you being able to do anything about it. This is a breach of your privacy. ------ I think keys here are 'secretly', 'shares' and the fact you cannot stop it. (disabling location etc. does nothing to stop it.) The article on Reuters words it like this: ------ AMSTERDAM, Sept 12 (Reuters) - The Dutch consumers' association Consumentenbond together with the Privacy Protection Foundation issued legal proceedings against Google on Tuesday for alleged large-scale privacy violations, they said in a statement. Both groups demanded that Google, part of Alphabet Inc (GOOGL.O), stops "its constant surveillance and sharing of personal data through online advertising auctions" ---------- I don't know where you got this thing about ad-targeting? ad-targeting is a result of these trades. its not the target of this suit.
  - onetokeoverthe 3y ago
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49 points by hassanahmad 3y ago

Dutch people can join in via https://www.consumentenbond.nl/acties/google-claim https://www.consumentenbond.nl/acties/google-claim.

Sander_Marechal 3y ago
Thank you! Signing up now.
- sim7c00 3y ago
  u can also add that facebook one if u had an account :P it's via the same site. once u signed up u can see what claims are open. - handy site. I guess we do like free stuff here :D Never once had a pay out, but its free to sign up so its like a bit of a free lottery with small prices :')

jiofj 3y ago

They are asking for 750 euros per user. How was this number calculated?

RugnirViking 3y ago
As I understand its common to ask for far more than you expect to be granted. thats just how these things work - they get pushed down from the starting point in the complaint. Its probably some multiple of per user earnings from google's own public numbers plus some extra for punitive damages

skilled 3y ago

Relevant, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37477390 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37477390 (no comments) https://www.consumentenbond.nl/nieuws/2023/google-voor-de-rechter-gedaagd https://www.consumentenbond.nl/nieuws/2023/google-voor-de-re... (in Dutch) https://stackdiary.com/dutch-consumers-rally-against-google-in-privacy-violation-claim/ https://stackdiary.com/dutch-consumers-rally-against-google-... (from the submission above)

JustLurking2022 3y ago

Other than saying "ad targeting bad", not much to go on here - the article makes no reference to the specific laws plaintiffs believe Google is violating

sim7c00 3y ago
From the description on the consumer service's site: ------ Google schendt elke dag jouw online privacy en volgt stiekem je fysieke locatie. Google verzamelt, analyseert en deelt gegevens over jou met anderen en verdient daar miljarden aan. Zonder dat je daar iets tegen kunt doen. Dit is een inbreuk op jouw privacy. ------ This translates to: ------ Google violates your privacy daily, and follows your physical location _secretly_ . Google collects, analyses and _shares_ data about you with others and earns billions from it. Without you being able to do anything about it. This is a breach of your privacy. ------ I think keys here are 'secretly', 'shares' and the fact you cannot stop it. (disabling location etc. does nothing to stop it.) The article on Reuters words it like this: ------ AMSTERDAM, Sept 12 (Reuters) - The Dutch consumers' association Consumentenbond together with the Privacy Protection Foundation issued legal proceedings against Google on Tuesday for alleged large-scale privacy violations, they said in a statement. Both groups demanded that Google, part of Alphabet Inc (GOOGL.O), stops "its constant surveillance and sharing of personal data through online advertising auctions" ---------- I don't know where you got this thing about ad-targeting? ad-targeting is a result of these trades. its not the target of this suit.
- onetokeoverthe 3y ago
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