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Awesome story. If black currants are so much richer than oranges in Vitamin C, why didnt the long distance sailors of the Age of Discovery, like the Portuguese

Awesome story. If black currants are so much richer than oranges in Vitamin C, why didnt the long distance sailors of the Age of Discovery, like the Portuguese going to India or the Spaniards going to the New World, not carry them? They only carried oranges. Puzzled.

lionkor 3y ago
they are very difficult to store in large quantities, and pretty much impossible to store for longer periods than a few days
- diogenes4 3y ago
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raverbashing 3y ago
Probably because the ability to measure Vit C was not invented yet, and you really need a small dose of Vit C to not get scurvy (Not sure how blackcurrents keep over long distances compared to oranges as well)
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momirlan 3y ago
or some Ribena bottles
mrguyorama 3y ago
The link between Scurvy and Vitamin C was not established until the early 1900s. Before that, pretty much only experimental evidence was able to establish what helped with scurvy, with various things found to be useful, including certain animal meats for arctic expeditions and sauerkraut, and lots of things that definitely didn't cause scurvy were blamed for it, like bad hygiene, tinned meats, alcoholism, etc. For the British, things were especially bad. Numerous captains and sailors had personally demonstrated and convinced themselves that scurvy could be prevented with fresh citrus, but were unable to convince the "classically trained" physicians who made Naval policy, who were still pushing things like "you need more air in your tissue". One of captain Cook's expeditions had good results with malt and wort preventing scurvy, so that was official practice even as navy admirals demanded lemons. The connection between citrus and Scurvy was finally proven in an animal model in the early 1920s, before we even understood what "Vitamins" where.
- somat 3y ago
  There is a great article on how the cure for scurvy was found, then lost. https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/24149/how-scurvy-was-cured-then-cure-was-lost https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/24149/how-scurvy-was-cur...
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lionkor 3y ago

they are very difficult to store in large quantities, and pretty much impossible to store for longer periods than a few days

diogenes4 3y ago
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raverbashing 3y ago

Probably because the ability to measure Vit C was not invented yet, and you really need a small dose of Vit C to not get scurvy (Not sure how blackcurrents keep over long distances compared to oranges as well)

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momirlan 3y ago

or some Ribena bottles

mrguyorama 3y ago

The link between Scurvy and Vitamin C was not established until the early 1900s. Before that, pretty much only experimental evidence was able to establish what helped with scurvy, with various things found to be useful, including certain animal meats for arctic expeditions and sauerkraut, and lots of things that definitely didn't cause scurvy were blamed for it, like bad hygiene, tinned meats, alcoholism, etc. For the British, things were especially bad. Numerous captains and sailors had personally demonstrated and convinced themselves that scurvy could be prevented with fresh citrus, but were unable to convince the "classically trained" physicians who made Naval policy, who were still pushing things like "you need more air in your tissue". One of captain Cook's expeditions had good results with malt and wort preventing scurvy, so that was official practice even as navy admirals demanded lemons. The connection between citrus and Scurvy was finally proven in an animal model in the early 1920s, before we even understood what "Vitamins" where.

somat 3y ago
There is a great article on how the cure for scurvy was found, then lost. https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/24149/how-scurvy-was-cured-then-cure-was-lost https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/24149/how-scurvy-was-cur...

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