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> Thankfully I am working on the frontend side of things Honestly, given the opinion of frontend on this forum, I'm surprised that you're thankful! I am 100% c

> Thankfully I am working on the frontend side of things Honestly, given the opinion of frontend on this forum, I'm surprised that you're thankful! I am 100% certain everyone here would take any kind of backend work over the hype-driven mess that is frontend development.

zdragnar 3y ago
I moved from backend to frontend years ago, when "hype-driven mess" was a much more accurate description of the field than it is today. There's simply many more interesting challenges in web application front-ends than backends, especially if you need spacial design- things where canvas or webgl excel. Comparatively, there are far fewer backend positions available that are more than basic CRUD, even if it those CRUD operations are gussied up with a bunch of needless complexity juggling sources of truth across a bunch of different services. There's plenty of drudgery out there, and some interesting work in every field, but on the whole I personally have found frontend product development- product configurators for engineering / manufacturing, network visualization, visual design tool development, and data driven interfaces to be more fulfilling work. To each their own, but maybe you might want to be a little more aware of the people that you work with when you feel like saying something condescending. Edit: FWIW, you'd have to be blind to not see hype driven development in backend, especially in HN. "Rewrite it in rust" is the meme that continues to keep on giving.
gherkinnn 3y ago
Isn’t it obvious that it is all the same? A dozen micro services per developer on rickety infrastructure serving data for a pixel generator built on top of 5 years worth of JS hype cycles. Why are we doing this to ourselves? It is just so stupid.
- Maxion 3y ago
  We all gotta pay the mortgage somehow!
lenkite 3y ago
> I am 100% certain everyone here would take any kind of backend work over the hype-driven mess that is frontend development The back-end is becoming an even more hype-driven mess these days. What with k8s and dozens of micro-services and controllers and telemetry-everything. And people don't even listen nowadays if you try to propose something simpler. The front-end is at-least constrained by browser limitations and the client device. One can only do hanky-panky upto to a point. But at the backend, "throw another cloud machine" at it has become the de-facto solution for most performance issues.

zdragnar 3y ago

I moved from backend to frontend years ago, when "hype-driven mess" was a much more accurate description of the field than it is today. There's simply many more interesting challenges in web application front-ends than backends, especially if you need spacial design- things where canvas or webgl excel. Comparatively, there are far fewer backend positions available that are more than basic CRUD, even if it those CRUD operations are gussied up with a bunch of needless complexity juggling sources of truth across a bunch of different services. There's plenty of drudgery out there, and some interesting work in every field, but on the whole I personally have found frontend product development- product configurators for engineering / manufacturing, network visualization, visual design tool development, and data driven interfaces to be more fulfilling work. To each their own, but maybe you might want to be a little more aware of the people that you work with when you feel like saying something condescending. Edit: FWIW, you'd have to be blind to not see hype driven development in backend, especially in HN. "Rewrite it in rust" is the meme that continues to keep on giving.

gherkinnn 3y ago

Isn’t it obvious that it is all the same? A dozen micro services per developer on rickety infrastructure serving data for a pixel generator built on top of 5 years worth of JS hype cycles. Why are we doing this to ourselves? It is just so stupid.

Maxion 3y ago
We all gotta pay the mortgage somehow!

lenkite 3y ago

> I am 100% certain everyone here would take any kind of backend work over the hype-driven mess that is frontend development The back-end is becoming an even more hype-driven mess these days. What with k8s and dozens of micro-services and controllers and telemetry-everything. And people don't even listen nowadays if you try to propose something simpler. The front-end is at-least constrained by browser limitations and the client device. One can only do hanky-panky upto to a point. But at the backend, "throw another cloud machine" at it has become the de-facto solution for most performance issues.