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> "that’s how people will think of you." Your comment begins with dicks, continues with a rant, and ends with villains. My opinion of you couldn't be any lower

> "that’s how people will think of you." Your comment begins with dicks, continues with a rant, and ends with villains. My opinion of you couldn't be any lower right now. Musk admitted to reacting poorly. He apologized multiple times including in court where he turned to the diver guy and said "sorry". As for the sub, the Thai navy kept it and were trained how to use it. They said they'd use it for future rescues. There is no evidence of Musk aiming for a PR stunt. It was a desperate situation requiring help from any angle possible. The Australian anaesthetist said later he expected some of the boys to die. The public attack from the diver on Musk was inappropriate and came from nowhere. He apparently had an attention-seeking agenda. He later tried to sue Musk for $190 million but was awarded zero dollars. The lesson is don't publicly attack people for trying to help, then try to get rich from the return fire.

drekk 3y ago
I don't think anyone here personally asked for your opinion of other posters. To answer to what you wrote though, is that the only bar? You have to say sorry for slandering someone as a pedophile (I'm sorry, "reacting poorly") to an audience of millions? At what point do we actually get to say someone is being shitty and not "uh oh this poor billionaire did another fucksie-wucksie and is sooo sorry! how relatable!" Forgiveness is such a powerful, raw, human emotion. Forgive me if I bristle at a billionaire debasing the concept because they've never faced any real pushback a day in their lives. Just spitballing here, don't shoot the messenger, maybe they could focus on accountability and restitution rather than make excuses about reacting poorly? It comes across incredibly tone deaf. "But I apologized, why are people still talking about it?" I'm not that invested in Musk vs any other billionaire like Bezos, but this is clearly a pattern of which you cherry picked one example. Has he said sorry for not paying contractors? Or rent? Reminds me of the joke about how narcissists "apologize": That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
- exodust 3y ago
  That was a mess of branching logic. It's not that complicated. Attacking anyone online is never "personally asked for", nor makes great reading, particularly when there's no substance other than insults. "This person is rotten", followed by a pattern of insulting memes, doesn't put you on higher ground than the target of your attack (OP's attack). Sounds like you'll justify an attack if the target has a minimum celebrity status or wealth? A team of people would have worked hard on the sub. If it turns out not to be useful, that's unfortunate for everyone, which is where it should end. It's not a time to launch personal attacks and accusations about PR stunts against the efforts of multiple people. The diver chose to do a TV interview and volunteer his toxic opinion about Musk. Nobody asked for that bizarre distraction from the rescue efforts. Obviously the diver didn't like Musk before the cave incident, and used his "hero" status to amplify and unload his grievances.

drekk 3y ago

I don't think anyone here personally asked for your opinion of other posters. To answer to what you wrote though, is that the only bar? You have to say sorry for slandering someone as a pedophile (I'm sorry, "reacting poorly") to an audience of millions? At what point do we actually get to say someone is being shitty and not "uh oh this poor billionaire did another fucksie-wucksie and is sooo sorry! how relatable!" Forgiveness is such a powerful, raw, human emotion. Forgive me if I bristle at a billionaire debasing the concept because they've never faced any real pushback a day in their lives. Just spitballing here, don't shoot the messenger, maybe they could focus on accountability and restitution rather than make excuses about reacting poorly? It comes across incredibly tone deaf. "But I apologized, why are people still talking about it?" I'm not that invested in Musk vs any other billionaire like Bezos, but this is clearly a pattern of which you cherry picked one example. Has he said sorry for not paying contractors? Or rent? Reminds me of the joke about how narcissists "apologize": That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.

exodust 3y ago
That was a mess of branching logic. It's not that complicated. Attacking anyone online is never "personally asked for", nor makes great reading, particularly when there's no substance other than insults. "This person is rotten", followed by a pattern of insulting memes, doesn't put you on higher ground than the target of your attack (OP's attack). Sounds like you'll justify an attack if the target has a minimum celebrity status or wealth? A team of people would have worked hard on the sub. If it turns out not to be useful, that's unfortunate for everyone, which is where it should end. It's not a time to launch personal attacks and accusations about PR stunts against the efforts of multiple people. The diver chose to do a TV interview and volunteer his toxic opinion about Musk. Nobody asked for that bizarre distraction from the rescue efforts. Obviously the diver didn't like Musk before the cave incident, and used his "hero" status to amplify and unload his grievances.