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> looking back I would be happier with an XPS. I don't know, I had nothing but problems with my (8th gen? Don't remember) XPS. Mostly small things that have wo

> looking back I would be happier with an XPS. I don't know, I had nothing but problems with my (8th gen? Don't remember) XPS. Mostly small things that have workarounds, such as fan being always on when running Linux, but still annoying. My current MacBook pro feels much better in terms of build quality.

dronodeath 3y ago
Sure but in terms of build quality does any laptop compare with a MacBook? Real question: Do you truly think the XPS is comparable to the Framework? I’ve no experience with the Framework so genuinely curious. OP seems less than impressed?
- duped 3y ago
  They're in the same price tier and both target software devs. With the XPS you're paying about the same price for a far better display and trackpad. With the framework, you might save some money on memory and storage and get decent repairability. And yes, I'd say an XPS compares in build quality to a MacBook Air, and has so many benefits over a Mac that it's not worth listing.
  - dronodeath 3y ago
    Thanks for the comparison.
  - selcuka 3y ago
    > XPS compares in build quality to a MacBook Air I don't know about the Air but I've used both and it is certainly not a match for MacBook Pro. > has so many benefits over a Mac Curious, such as what? I'm not invested in the Apple ecosystem at all, but I think MacBook (Pro) is the best developer laptop available.
- theogravity 3y ago
  The Razor laptops are really sturdy and the touchpad is very close to how a mac one feels.
  - vladvasiliu 3y ago
    I was curious about those. What's the Linux situation on them?
    - Tsiklon 3y ago
      There’s a special version released in conjunction with Lambda labs that comes with Ubuntu - called the Tensorbook. High prices though
throw1234651234 3y ago
I have had two XPS because price/performance. All for years and used daily. The charger failed in all of them. Heats up, stops charging. Battery swelled, made keyboard unusable (only some keys work). Screen failed for a while but then started working again. Network card failed on both, had to be swapped. Swapped RAM on one. Both sit on a cooling pad or overheat badly. The XPS is a hell of a lot of performance for price, but if I had to be constantly on the go and work from a laptop, I would probably get something else to avoid the embarrassment of peripherals working intermittently.

dronodeath 3y ago

Sure but in terms of build quality does any laptop compare with a MacBook? Real question: Do you truly think the XPS is comparable to the Framework? I’ve no experience with the Framework so genuinely curious. OP seems less than impressed?

duped 3y ago
They're in the same price tier and both target software devs. With the XPS you're paying about the same price for a far better display and trackpad. With the framework, you might save some money on memory and storage and get decent repairability. And yes, I'd say an XPS compares in build quality to a MacBook Air, and has so many benefits over a Mac that it's not worth listing.
- dronodeath 3y ago
  Thanks for the comparison.
- selcuka 3y ago
  > XPS compares in build quality to a MacBook Air I don't know about the Air but I've used both and it is certainly not a match for MacBook Pro. > has so many benefits over a Mac Curious, such as what? I'm not invested in the Apple ecosystem at all, but I think MacBook (Pro) is the best developer laptop available.
theogravity 3y ago
The Razor laptops are really sturdy and the touchpad is very close to how a mac one feels.
- vladvasiliu 3y ago
  I was curious about those. What's the Linux situation on them?
  - Tsiklon 3y ago
    There’s a special version released in conjunction with Lambda labs that comes with Ubuntu - called the Tensorbook. High prices though

throw1234651234 3y ago

I have had two XPS because price/performance. All for years and used daily. The charger failed in all of them. Heats up, stops charging. Battery swelled, made keyboard unusable (only some keys work). Screen failed for a while but then started working again. Network card failed on both, had to be swapped. Swapped RAM on one. Both sit on a cooling pad or overheat badly. The XPS is a hell of a lot of performance for price, but if I had to be constantly on the go and work from a laptop, I would probably get something else to avoid the embarrassment of peripherals working intermittently.