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> Facebook has been a tool for genocide. This is very surprising news to me. What genocide?

toomuchtodo 3y ago
> What genocide? https://rsilpak.org/2022/facebook-genocide-and-social-medias-role-in-conflict/ https://rsilpak.org/2022/facebook-genocide-and-social-medias... https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-facebooks-systems-promoted-violence-against-rohingya-meta-owes-reparations-new-report/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/amnesty-report-finds-facebook-amplified-hate-ahead-of-rohingya-massacre-in-myanmar https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/amnesty-report-finds-face... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-... https://www.globalwitness.org/en/campaigns/digital-threats/rohingya-facebook-hate-speech/ https://www.globalwitness.org/en/campaigns/digital-threats/r... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_genocide#Facebook_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_genocide#Facebook_con... https://www.google.com/search?q=facebook+genocide https://www.google.com/search?q=facebook+genocide > This is very surprising news to me. https://xkcd.com/1053/ https://xkcd.com/1053/
- exodust 3y ago
  > "Facebook is the internet" - [amnesty.org] I'm surprised this statement emerged from a UN "fact-finding mission". Regardless of how popular Facebook is in any given location, it's obviously not a factual statement. If Facebook wasn't available, Myanmar people wouldn't shrug shoulders and say "oh well, the internet is down".
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    > Regardless of how popular Facebook is in any given location, it's obviously not a factual statement. Perception need not be a factual statement, but is still relevant. https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/10/05/1036479/facebook-global-outage/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/10/05/1036479/facebook... ("For huge parts of the world, Facebook is synonymous with the internet.") https://medium.com/swlh/in-the-developing-world-facebook-is-the-internet-14075bfd8c5e https://medium.com/swlh/in-the-developing-world-facebook-is-... ("In the Developing World, Facebook Is the Internet") https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jan/20/facebook-second-life-the-unstoppable-rise-of-the-tech-company-in-africa https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jan/20/facebook-... ("How Facebook took over the internet in Africa – and changed everything") https://qz.com/333313/milliions-of-facebook-users-have-no-idea-theyre-using-the-internet https://qz.com/333313/milliions-of-facebook-users-have-no-id... ("Millions of Facebook users have no idea they’re using the internet")
    - exodust 3y ago
      No objections to relevancy. I argued against emotive exaggerated statements forming the conclusions of fact-finding. Another one: "Dangerous algorithms". Can an algorithm be dangerous? Too late to debate, the fact-finding says they are. Any posts that counter the facts should be blocked right? These horrendous crimes are a human problem, not an algorithm problem. Five years on from the atrocities, no member of the Myanmar security forces has yet been prosecuted for their crimes, according to amnesty. So not just a human problem, a legal problem too.

> What genocide? https://rsilpak.org/2022/facebook-genocide-and-social-medias-role-in-conflict/ https://rsilpak.org/2022/facebook-genocide-and-social-medias... https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-facebooks-systems-promoted-violence-against-rohingya-meta-owes-reparations-new-report/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/amnesty-report-finds-facebook-amplified-hate-ahead-of-rohingya-massacre-in-myanmar https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/amnesty-report-finds-face... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-... https://www.globalwitness.org/en/campaigns/digital-threats/rohingya-facebook-hate-speech/ https://www.globalwitness.org/en/campaigns/digital-threats/r... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_genocide#Facebook_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_genocide#Facebook_con... https://www.google.com/search?q=facebook+genocide https://www.google.com/search?q=facebook+genocide > This is very surprising news to me. https://xkcd.com/1053/ https://xkcd.com/1053/

exodust 3y ago
> "Facebook is the internet" - [amnesty.org] I'm surprised this statement emerged from a UN "fact-finding mission". Regardless of how popular Facebook is in any given location, it's obviously not a factual statement. If Facebook wasn't available, Myanmar people wouldn't shrug shoulders and say "oh well, the internet is down".
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  > Regardless of how popular Facebook is in any given location, it's obviously not a factual statement. Perception need not be a factual statement, but is still relevant. https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/10/05/1036479/facebook-global-outage/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/10/05/1036479/facebook... ("For huge parts of the world, Facebook is synonymous with the internet.") https://medium.com/swlh/in-the-developing-world-facebook-is-the-internet-14075bfd8c5e https://medium.com/swlh/in-the-developing-world-facebook-is-... ("In the Developing World, Facebook Is the Internet") https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jan/20/facebook-second-life-the-unstoppable-rise-of-the-tech-company-in-africa https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jan/20/facebook-... ("How Facebook took over the internet in Africa – and changed everything") https://qz.com/333313/milliions-of-facebook-users-have-no-idea-theyre-using-the-internet https://qz.com/333313/milliions-of-facebook-users-have-no-id... ("Millions of Facebook users have no idea they’re using the internet")
  - exodust 3y ago
    No objections to relevancy. I argued against emotive exaggerated statements forming the conclusions of fact-finding. Another one: "Dangerous algorithms". Can an algorithm be dangerous? Too late to debate, the fact-finding says they are. Any posts that counter the facts should be blocked right? These horrendous crimes are a human problem, not an algorithm problem. Five years on from the atrocities, no member of the Myanmar security forces has yet been prosecuted for their crimes, according to amnesty. So not just a human problem, a legal problem too.