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It could be your router giving it a new IP address, but the printer itself hopefully has a static MAC address. Check your router settings for static IP assignme

It could be your router giving it a new IP address, but the printer itself hopefully has a static MAC address. Check your router settings for static IP assignment, they may be under a section called DHCP. Over there you could give it a static IP address for its current MAC address EDIT: this comment no longer makes sense after the parent comment was edited. It used to be explicitly asking for help and didn't mention any solutions like static IPs, nor did it spell out a general remark about how this complexity in consumer electronics is bad

bombcar 3y ago
It's actually sometimes sold as a "security" feature - short DHCP leases with no memory. Which is kinda silly, if the router hasn't needed to give the IP to another client, just remember it forever.
- kube-system 3y ago
  If people start using dynamic IPs as if they are static, when they really aren't, they're just setting themselves up for failure the next time the devices reboots or resets. It's better to either use static addressing if you want static addressing, or use DNS if you don't know what the IP is going to be.
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breadwinner 3y ago
You missed the point. I wasn't asking for help on how to assign a static IP address. My point was that ordinary people shouldn't have to know what an IP address is, let alone what a static IP address is, in this day and age.
- crumpled 3y ago
  That's wishful thinking, imo. If you want to have a network, someone needs to know a bit of networking. Or you need someone you can call who does. Don't get mad at the printer for what your router is doing to its IP address. This day and age isn't as advanced as you'd like it to be, or you need a new router that does what you expect.
  - breadwinner 3y ago
    Thankfully people at Apple thought this can be easier. They came up with Bonjour... Bonjour is apparently also known as ZeroConf [1]. Microsoft is behind the times. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking
    - trimethylpurine 3y ago
      Bonjour struggles to find printers much more than Windows. My Windows users just click add printer and it just works. And let's not talk about file shares. Macs literally can't connect to any file shares except Windows ones (since AFP is out of support), and then only with Samba, and only with Apple's botched implementation of Samba which crashes, because it needs to create metafile databases on said shares, if a share has too many files. Try opening a file share with 20k+ images in the root from your latest Mac. Seems to me, as a mixed OS business operator, that it's Apple that's behind the times. Even out of service Chromecast devices and decades old Linux distros are better at network discovery than Bonjour.
      - mortenjorck 3y ago
        I can’t comment on the file share tangent, but in my experience with a Bonjour-equipped Brother laser printer over the past eight or so years, I don’t think I can recall it failing to connect once. Granted, I’m on a Mac and I print about five times a year, so YMMV.
        trimethylpurine 3y ago
        I don't doubt that a one computer, one printer, scenario is any problem for any OS. You'll see who the ugly one is when the kids play together. File sharing isn't a tangent. The purpose of Bonjour is to couple printing and file sharing as a network discovery protocol.
        cstejerean 3y ago
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- kop316 3y ago
  For the record, printers have been so bad with firmware/software that it literally inspired RMS to make GNU: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/201cthe-printer-story201d-redux-a-testimonial-about-the-injustice-of-proprietary-firmware https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/201cthe-printer-story201...

bombcar 3y ago

It's actually sometimes sold as a "security" feature - short DHCP leases with no memory. Which is kinda silly, if the router hasn't needed to give the IP to another client, just remember it forever.

kube-system 3y ago
If people start using dynamic IPs as if they are static, when they really aren't, they're just setting themselves up for failure the next time the devices reboots or resets. It's better to either use static addressing if you want static addressing, or use DNS if you don't know what the IP is going to be.

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breadwinner 3y ago

You missed the point. I wasn't asking for help on how to assign a static IP address. My point was that ordinary people shouldn't have to know what an IP address is, let alone what a static IP address is, in this day and age.

crumpled 3y ago
That's wishful thinking, imo. If you want to have a network, someone needs to know a bit of networking. Or you need someone you can call who does. Don't get mad at the printer for what your router is doing to its IP address. This day and age isn't as advanced as you'd like it to be, or you need a new router that does what you expect.
- breadwinner 3y ago
  Thankfully people at Apple thought this can be easier. They came up with Bonjour... Bonjour is apparently also known as ZeroConf [1]. Microsoft is behind the times. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking
  - trimethylpurine 3y ago
    Bonjour struggles to find printers much more than Windows. My Windows users just click add printer and it just works. And let's not talk about file shares. Macs literally can't connect to any file shares except Windows ones (since AFP is out of support), and then only with Samba, and only with Apple's botched implementation of Samba which crashes, because it needs to create metafile databases on said shares, if a share has too many files. Try opening a file share with 20k+ images in the root from your latest Mac. Seems to me, as a mixed OS business operator, that it's Apple that's behind the times. Even out of service Chromecast devices and decades old Linux distros are better at network discovery than Bonjour.
    - mortenjorck 3y ago
      I can’t comment on the file share tangent, but in my experience with a Bonjour-equipped Brother laser printer over the past eight or so years, I don’t think I can recall it failing to connect once. Granted, I’m on a Mac and I print about five times a year, so YMMV.
      - trimethylpurine 3y ago
        I don't doubt that a one computer, one printer, scenario is any problem for any OS. You'll see who the ugly one is when the kids play together. File sharing isn't a tangent. The purpose of Bonjour is to couple printing and file sharing as a network discovery protocol.
        cstejerean 3y ago
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kop316 3y ago
For the record, printers have been so bad with firmware/software that it literally inspired RMS to make GNU: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/201cthe-printer-story201d-redux-a-testimonial-about-the-injustice-of-proprietary-firmware https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/201cthe-printer-story201...