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The dilemma for me is that Firefox is extremely slow on Android. Doubly so with adblocking and dark mode extensions. I don't want the tracking, and I am certai

The dilemma for me is that Firefox is extremely slow on Android. Doubly so with adblocking and dark mode extensions. I don't want the tracking, and I am certainly not going to install vanilla Chrome, but the performance deficit is a big compromise.

hot_gril 3y ago
If you're worried about tracking, isn't Google's OS already a non-starter?
- brucethemoose2 3y ago
  LineageOS and derivatives are much more reasonable. Again, its a compromise, and I dont trust it with everything.
- the_third_wave 3y ago
  Not if you do not include the nosy bits. Use an AOSP-derived distribution like LineageOS, do not add 'Gapps' (Google Apps), use free software 'apps' from F-Droid or something similar (including Fennec, a Firefox build minus telemetry/Pocket/...) and you're good to go. LineageOS itself has its derivatives like GrapheneOS which claim to take the idea of a leak-proof mobile OS further but since that only runs on a limited number of devices none of which I have around here I have not tested this yet.
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paulryanrogers 3y ago
Firefox is slow at what?
ploum 3y ago
Then it means that, yes, you accept being tracked to browse the web a bit faster. Imagine the situation: your computer is slow and someone promises you to make it faster in exchange of knowing everything about what your computer is doing. Would you accept? Well, you did. I’m not pointing the finger at you. We are all doing compromises. I’m just saying that if you don’t want to be tracked but want all the benefits of being tracked then, really, you want being tracked. Also, Firefox being slow on Android doesn’t seem mandatory (it works really well for me). The fact that you didn’t look to solve this issue is yet one more confirmation that, yes, you agree to be tracked. Making choices is about the sacrifices we are ready to make for that choice. If there’s no sacrifice, there’s no choice.
deprecative 3y ago
The issue for me is that Firefox is funded by Google. If you're trying to avoid Google your alternative is.. Google. Some might opt for Apple software but Apple hardware(and OS) is a non-starter for me.

hot_gril 3y ago

If you're worried about tracking, isn't Google's OS already a non-starter?

brucethemoose2 3y ago
LineageOS and derivatives are much more reasonable. Again, its a compromise, and I dont trust it with everything.
the_third_wave 3y ago
Not if you do not include the nosy bits. Use an AOSP-derived distribution like LineageOS, do not add 'Gapps' (Google Apps), use free software 'apps' from F-Droid or something similar (including Fennec, a Firefox build minus telemetry/Pocket/...) and you're good to go. LineageOS itself has its derivatives like GrapheneOS which claim to take the idea of a leak-proof mobile OS further but since that only runs on a limited number of devices none of which I have around here I have not tested this yet.

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paulryanrogers 3y ago

Firefox is slow at what?

ploum 3y ago

Then it means that, yes, you accept being tracked to browse the web a bit faster. Imagine the situation: your computer is slow and someone promises you to make it faster in exchange of knowing everything about what your computer is doing. Would you accept? Well, you did. I’m not pointing the finger at you. We are all doing compromises. I’m just saying that if you don’t want to be tracked but want all the benefits of being tracked then, really, you want being tracked. Also, Firefox being slow on Android doesn’t seem mandatory (it works really well for me). The fact that you didn’t look to solve this issue is yet one more confirmation that, yes, you agree to be tracked. Making choices is about the sacrifices we are ready to make for that choice. If there’s no sacrifice, there’s no choice.

deprecative 3y ago

The issue for me is that Firefox is funded by Google. If you're trying to avoid Google your alternative is.. Google. Some might opt for Apple software but Apple hardware(and OS) is a non-starter for me.