> A rich person getting richer Has nothing at all to do with what most businesses do. Most businesses are small businesses and their owners are not rich. And m

> A rich person getting richer Has nothing at all to do with what most businesses do. Most businesses are small businesses and their owners are not rich. And most businesses create wealth directly, instead of buying government favors to help get wealth transferred from other people to them. > Because the positive value created by a business is, actually, not relevant to the discussion. Yes, it is. "Business" does not just mean large corporations, and it does not just have negative effects. Focusing on the negative effects and ignoring the benefits is foolish. > Did you miss my fire analogy? No, I just grasp the fact (which apparently you don't) that you are focused only on the negatives and not the positives, so your analysis is flawed; it doesn't support your claims. That's just as true of your fire analogy, where you only focused on the dangers of fire (and the additional dangers we create by using fire), not the benefits we gain from fire. > You, on the other hand, are not acknowledging the danger of profit-seeking behavior Sure I am. I'm just balancing it against the benefits, which you are not. You are saying that everything businesses do can be described by analogy with "fire indeed hot". Which is even less of an apt description of businesses than it is of fires.