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What does uMatrix have that uBlock Origin doesn't provide?
by contact9879 3y ago
What does uMatrix have that uBlock Origin doesn't provide?
- wtallis 3y agoA better UI for fine-grained control over what kind of requests get blocked.
- freedomben 3y agoExactly. Say I want to block cookies, media, and XHR requests on the current site as well as on a linked 3rd party site (like cloudfront), but allow css, scripts, and frames? In uMatrix such a configuration is trivial. In uBO AFAICT you're probably gonna have to write the rules manually. The grid UI in uBO doesn't get that granular, just "network request" level.
- pmontra 3y agoThe UI is many orders of magnitude better. uMatrix vs uBlock Origin is a textbook case. UbO's matrix is the masochist's teapot in the cover page of The Design of Everyday Things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Design_of_Everyday_Things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Design_of_Everyday_Things uMatrix is a teapot with the handle where it should be. If uMatrix will stop working I'll install NoScript. I'll keep using UbO for ads and cosmetic filtering.
- sebzim4500 3y agoHow so? I think uBO has a pretty nice UX for what I want to do. Especially like the element picker UI, where you can independantly control what element you want in the hierarchy and also how specific the selector should be.
- Zuiii 3y ago> How so? I think uBO has a pretty nice UX for what I want to do. I'm happy for you but I think uBO has a horrible UX for what I want to do.
- pmontra 3y agoThe element picker is wonderful and I use it a lot especially on my phone but the part that reimplemented uMatrix is a huge and inexplicable regression.
- drewmol 3y agoYou use both(UbO and uMatrix)? I didn’t realize uMatrix dev had been discontinued until just now, but between Brave shields and uMatrix I do a lot of clicking just to get stuff to work properly when browsing. Do you have to toggle/config uBlock often?
- pmontra 3y agoI use Firefox. I don't know what's a Brave shield. I use uMatrix + uBO on desktop and NoScript + uBO on mobile. I use uBO's UI mainly for the element picker. The part that reimplemented uMatrix is too hard to understand and to use, hence my comment about the teapot that pours tea from above the handle. I'm using NoScript on my phone because it has a better UI for that. I use uMatrix on my desktop because it's better than NoScript. I don't use uMatrix on my phone because it's not available on mobile. I would if it was.
- drewmol 3y agoSorry, I could have been more clear. Brave is a browser with a feature called Shield, an anti-tracking feature, a click of the icon disables it/reloads page. So my workflow is up to 3 clicks if I just want to disable everything, which I do when I'm in a hurry sometimes. I was wondering how often you had to interact with uBO mostly, which was answered in sibling comment. I'm switching back to an android phone, mostly for a better browsing experience, so I'll try Firefox/NoScript+uBO combo. I'm using uMatrix everywhere else(except on iOS) but no uBO, I thought uMatrix covered everything uBO does but I guess not so I'll try both. Also, I believe some versions of nightly Firefox (on mobile) can support uMatrix, IIRC. Thanks for the breakdown!
- Yujf 3y agoIf you rely on default config uBO just works, but if you go furthur in blocking things (or add third party filters) tinkering may be required for certain webpages (or a lot depending on how hard you go)
- drewmol 3y agoGreat that's what I was looking for, I'll try combining the two.