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The FOSS community could do SO much better if they wanted to, with reactive web tech, typescript instead of basic, a project file format that's easy to work wit

The FOSS community could do SO much better if they wanted to, with reactive web tech, typescript instead of basic, a project file format that's easy to work with in Git, Android support, etc. Despite all this talk about no-code, it seems like all we have now is like, a CMS that lets you embed Google maps, but if you want to do anything more you have to use code. Maybe it's just that end users usually don't need to build anything anymore, there's almost always an professionally made app for everything. I've tried many times to "Build the app you want to see in the world" and almost every time the result is I decide that living with and working around the imperfections of what's out there is more practical than building and maintaining anything by myself in hopes of the the very small chance people notice and it becomes A Thing. Perhaps better dev tools like VB aimed at one off software like that could change the equation, and if the tools existed we'd all find uses for them?

gumballindie 3y ago
> with reactive web tech, typescript I very much doubt. Actually reactive frameworks such as react and languages that transpile in other languages such as trypescript are the reason they couldn't. These overcomplicated, seemingly well architected, tools are in fact just a fractal of poor design.
- eternityforest 3y ago
  I've never seen anything else that even comes close to working that well for making a responsive GUI. With everything else you spend half your time manually adding and removing things from list view controls and such. There are some pretty big architecture issues. Like the fact JS and TS are still separate things(Google tried to fix that with native Dart in the browser, looking back it would have been amazing) and the fact that there are dozens of reactive frameworks that come and go. Most of that wouldn't exist/would be papered over so nobody noticed, in an end to end, "We plan to not break this for the next 25 years" tool like VB or Excel. But everthing new comes with a move fast and break things expectation, people are less interested in creating new 30-year standards now, and that doesn't seem to be how stuff is done. Complex stuff is considered disposable these days.

gumballindie 3y ago

> with reactive web tech, typescript I very much doubt. Actually reactive frameworks such as react and languages that transpile in other languages such as trypescript are the reason they couldn't. These overcomplicated, seemingly well architected, tools are in fact just a fractal of poor design.

eternityforest 3y ago
I've never seen anything else that even comes close to working that well for making a responsive GUI. With everything else you spend half your time manually adding and removing things from list view controls and such. There are some pretty big architecture issues. Like the fact JS and TS are still separate things(Google tried to fix that with native Dart in the browser, looking back it would have been amazing) and the fact that there are dozens of reactive frameworks that come and go. Most of that wouldn't exist/would be papered over so nobody noticed, in an end to end, "We plan to not break this for the next 25 years" tool like VB or Excel. But everthing new comes with a move fast and break things expectation, people are less interested in creating new 30-year standards now, and that doesn't seem to be how stuff is done. Complex stuff is considered disposable these days.