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It does sound to me like a nefarious plot (but I'm making this comment in the interest of hearing an alternative explanation). BTW I have carried a bag myself
by gumby 3y ago
It does sound to me like a nefarious plot (but I'm making this comment in the interest of hearing an alternative explanation).
BTW I have carried a bag myself (lived on commission) from cold-calling up to closing large deals. So this isn't some "commerce is crap" / "I hate salespeople" knee-jerk bullshit. Shoveling turds into my inbox is gets you on, well, my shit list.
To me, sending me automatic mail I didn't ask for is being an outsider and adding to my todo list.* This is a hostile act, basically saying you do not value my time.
So when you tell me that you get a list of names and just add them to your spray-n-pray list, I can only consider that spammy activity. And when I think of it that way, maintaining a "don't harass these people again" list doesn't sound like a kindness, it sounds like you did it to avoid getting sued, i.e. for your benefit, not mine.
As I said, I'd be interested to learn if there is a more charitable way to look at it. Because the way it looks to me, it's all about you and you don't give a shit about the people who receive your messages.
* there is legit unsolicited mail, for example if my pal Alice tells Bob, "hey, you should ask gumby your question, here's his address". That's by definition personal and low volume.
- starttoaster 3y agoWell, the other way to look at it is if you get your way, and you unsubscribe from a mailing list, you’ll eventually get added right back to it again. If that seems like your ideal state, then I guess you don’t really value your own time all that much. Though as a middle ground it does seem like writing is on the wall for an additional checkbox like “unsubscribe and delete my mailing list record and mail preferences (your email may be retrieved again and get added back to the mailing list.)”
- fragmede 3y agoYou've got a weird obsession with feces, and I'm not sure why you've made me into some spamlord sending out millions of emails to buy c1alis and v1agra. I'm approaching the problem from first principles, with an understanding that inside the black square on the Internet map where the spammers live, there are sloppy humans that pass around csv files, who don't talk to each other, which then get dumped into a machine that spits out emails. How would you build such a machine? How would you make sure the machine doesn't do the wrong thing and send emails to people that have clicked the unsubscribe button? There are many humans swirling around, of varying technical competency and kindness and sanity levels. All it would take is for one of them, half drunk, to upload Dreamforce_emails_FINAL_1_(1).csv instead of Dreamforce_emails_FINAL_1_MINUS_GUMBY.csv into the machine for your email to reappear after you'd unsubscribed.