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The Internet is pure information, pure virtual space (well it's also computers, hard drives, and wiring, but that's not what people mean when they talk about Th
by lordfrito 3y ago
The Internet is pure information, pure virtual space (well it's also computers, hard drives, and wiring, but that's not what people mean when they talk about The Internet).
Hyperreality deals with the simulation of the real (both classical/physical simulation as well as idea and mental-model simulation), so much so that the real eventually becomes less important than the simulation itself. At some point the symbols of the simulation begin to take on a life of their own (think of brand logos, the Nike swoosh, the apple with a bite taken out). The symbols begin to have their own meanings apart from reality, welcome to the realm of the hyperreal.
The word "girl" is not a real girl, it's meant to "capture" or "represent" what a girl is in communication. We attempt to capture "real girlness" in the words we use and the mental models we build. Over time usage of the word gets perverted, it no longer "accurately" captures the essence of what a girl is, it is a distortion of the real. The word, which started out representing reality, becomes untethered from reality, and starts to take on a life of its own.
Eventually you leave behind all pretense of reality, and the word/symbol has it's own inherent meaning that only makes sense in context of the hyperreal. This article only really seems to make sense if you live more in the world of hyperreal symbols, and are less concerned about the real world that the words once represented.
A lot of this is due the Enlightenment, as we now live in an "Age of Reason" which is absolutely obsessed with simulation -- everything must be captured, categorized, analyzed, broken down, understood, only to eventually be integrated and manipulated in our mental models (simulations).
In many ways The Internet is (or has the potential to become) home for the absolute hyperreal. All that matters to the internet is the relationship between symbols. Are you aligned with the right symbols, brands, products, politics, lifestyles, etc.? Endless bites of "simulated false realities" designed for mental consumption. We yearn for the real, the authentic, while living in an increasingly hyperreal world starving of any underlying meaning.
What's more important; The Real, or The Internet's captured and increasingly perverted version of "The Real"?
I am unconcerned with the hyperreal when what it claims to represent is untethered from the real world. To some it's deathly serious. I've found my mental health is better staying focused on things that are more real.
If you find these ideas compelling I suggest you read up more on it [1]. The book Simulacra and Simulation is a wonderful starting place, really opened my eyes [2].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation
- bowsamic 3y agoWell, Baudrillard said that all of reality is already a simulation, since everything has been replaced by symbols representing those things. Therefore, surely all of the things you say about the internet also apply to, say, eating a nice dinner from vegetables you grew yourself? Hyperreality isn't just about brands or explicit simulations. Remember that Baudrillard says the map covers the entire territory: there isn't some corner of human life that we can retreat to. The Real has already been surpassed, never to be returned to. I suppose you disagreed with that aspect of the book you recommended?
- lordfrito 3y agoYeah agreed. This conversation itself is in cyberspace. But it's just degrees of abstraction. I prefer being more mentally tethered to "the territory" rather than "the map". The territory is what it is (the laws of physics being unchanging). The map is constantly changing based on things that only matter to those who prefer the hyperreal. I supposed I have my "private map" of the world which rules my behavior -- I tend to refer to that rather than let an outside map (The Internet) guide my actions. I work in hyperreality, I make my living in hyperreality. I remind myself that I do this in order to live better in the real world around me. My house, the land around me, the people I know in person, are far more important to me (and worth worrying about) than the symbols I endlessly encounter during my workday. Articles like this are just nonsense as they have no practical use to me (and I suspect most living along side me) in the territory that I inhabit/value.
- bowsamic 3y agoNo, again, there is no territory, it is gone, we are living entirely in the hyperreal, even your grandma who has never used a computer is living entirely in the hyperreal and has no access to anything other than simulacra. The food she eats, the water she drinks, the sky she looks at, etc. Even the "laws of physics" are simulacra. There is no such thing as "the real world around you" according to Baudrillard. I don't think you quite understood the book you recommended
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