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Ironicly everything you’ve listed here is an example of companies expressing their rights to control their data. You don’t own music or movies, they aren’t your
by andrewxdiamond 3y ago
Ironicly everything you’ve listed here is an example of companies expressing their rights to control their data. You don’t own music or movies, they aren’t your data.
Data rights are for data about you and your behavior. If you retained copyright over all the data you produce by existing, you would be on the same level as companies today
- JoeAltmaier 3y agoExcept when you've paid for it? Then it's your data. This is not rocket science.
- andrewxdiamond 3y agoYou didn’t pay for the right to own those movies, you paid a small fee for a license to consume their data within the bounds of the contract they laid out. No one here is trying to outlaw Copyright, which is the mechanism that lets companies do as OP says; limit you from downloading their data. Data sovereignty is not at all related to streaming movies or music and this comment confuses people who are curious to what the effort really is about.
- EMIRELADERO 3y agoCopyright regulates distribution, not consumption. What people mean by "own" is to own a digital file of the content that can be viewed at any time, anywhere, as long as the onus on keeping backups/moving the file around is on the consumer.
- andrewxdiamond 3y agoIf I share a private picture with you by showing you the image on my phone, do you now have a legal right to force me to give you a copy of that picture?
- EMIRELADERO 3y agoNo. That's not an accurate analogy however.
- biogene 3y agoLegally speaking, unless you have a work-for-hire type contract with the artist, you don't have an ownership claim. You purchased a digital 'ticket' that lets you view the artwork according to someone else's terms and conditions.
- bobbruno 3y agoWhile your point is valid, we’ve had (maybe for lack of a feasible alternative, but still), for many decades, the option to purchase a physical copy of media that was under our sole control and available for as long as the media itself lasted. We still have these options, but there is a clear preference of companies to sell a “subscription”, where our access to the content can be removed due to reasons completely out of our control. I can see a possible future where actually purchasing a permanent, non-revocable access to some content will not be an option anymore. When you consider the practices that some of these companies have, of “vaulting” content or removing access to it due to cost or tax reasons, I am not so much in favor of laws that protect their IP or copyright anymore. At least, not unconditionally.
- andrewxdiamond 3y agoThe problem you talk about is real, for sure. But it is nothing to do with owning _your data._ Your problem is much more aligned with right to repair rather than data ownership/privacy efforts. It’s important that people know what they’re advocating for and understand the fundamentals of what the problem is. Confusing this problem with another problem only muddies the conversation and gets nothing done.
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