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> The only thing they have managed is accelerated resentment towards pro climate activities. I'm not so sure about that. I see a fair number of people who got

by sho_hn 3y ago

> The only thing they have managed is accelerated resentment towards pro climate activities. I'm not so sure about that. I see a fair number of people who got woken up to how serious things are by these protests as well. Before they saw this kind of thing on the news, it didn't strike them as particularly real. It's a "sign of the times" for them.

lowkey_ 3y ago
How have they expressed that? How has it changed their minds? I'd be genuinely amazed at the personality of a person who goes "Wow! They must be disrupting my day for a very important reason. Let me look up and better research their cause," versus "Oh f**, I'm going to be late to my appointment. What's going on? Oh, these idiots are blocking the street." If you're going to interrupt my life based on some future, uncertain scientific reasoning, especially the lives of everyday working-class people who can't afford to spend their day blocking streets instead of working, it would turn me off to your cause, and that's the only sentiment I've heard from my friends. Maybe we're wrong for that, but I'm curious how others would respond.
- sho_hn 3y ago
  I think there's plenty of people who are surprised that some people take the climate situation as seriously enough that they would organize and do this, especially when others chime in with "you should expect more of this, the coming decades will see a lot of things destabilize". I've not encountered much anti-activism sentiment, at most a "they have a point, but it's the wrong way to do it". I've not seen anyone leave their gasoline engine on idle on their behalf to spite them.
- c1sc0 3y ago
  It definitely would be better digested by the general population if their actions avoided targeting the working class, like they did recently with blocking private jets.
bonzini 3y ago
In Italy they threw paint at statues, damaging them because they thought "washable" paint would be easily cleaned with water. Whereas it's the kind that most thoroughly repels it. That's not the way to get random people's sympathy.

by sho_hn 3y ago

lowkey_ 3y ago

How have they expressed that? How has it changed their minds? I'd be genuinely amazed at the personality of a person who goes "Wow! They must be disrupting my day for a very important reason. Let me look up and better research their cause," versus "Oh f**, I'm going to be late to my appointment. What's going on? Oh, these idiots are blocking the street." If you're going to interrupt my life based on some future, uncertain scientific reasoning, especially the lives of everyday working-class people who can't afford to spend their day blocking streets instead of working, it would turn me off to your cause, and that's the only sentiment I've heard from my friends. Maybe we're wrong for that, but I'm curious how others would respond.

sho_hn 3y ago
I think there's plenty of people who are surprised that some people take the climate situation as seriously enough that they would organize and do this, especially when others chime in with "you should expect more of this, the coming decades will see a lot of things destabilize". I've not encountered much anti-activism sentiment, at most a "they have a point, but it's the wrong way to do it". I've not seen anyone leave their gasoline engine on idle on their behalf to spite them.
c1sc0 3y ago
It definitely would be better digested by the general population if their actions avoided targeting the working class, like they did recently with blocking private jets.

bonzini 3y ago

In Italy they threw paint at statues, damaging them because they thought "washable" paint would be easily cleaned with water. Whereas it's the kind that most thoroughly repels it. That's not the way to get random people's sympathy.