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But wait, everyone keeps telling me that Apple cripples their products after a couple years forcing you to buy their latest version.

by ipqk 3y ago

lethologica 3y ago
I’m still using a 2015 MacBook Pro. It still runs fine. I’m looking at replacing it with an M3 MacBook Air when they come out though.
- jpsouth 3y ago
  I've got the M2 Air with 8GB and the only time I've noticed any form of lag is when I've got a K8s cluster running locally with loads of containers. Looking back, the 16GB would have been nice, but it's hardly common that I will put the device under such load.
mcintyre1994 3y ago
There are many Apple devices that are good arguments against that claim, but the barely over a year old M2 Air isn’t one.
whynotmaybe 3y ago
Apple says it. "The company also says its power management update – introduced in 2017 to manage demands on older batteries or with a low level of charge – only reduced an iPhone 6's performance by an average of 10%." https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-fights-2-bln-london-lawsuit-throttling-millions-iphones-2023-05-02/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-fights-2-bln-london...
musicale 3y ago
You might only ("only") get ~7 years of OS updates. A bit of a shame if the hardware is still OK. My 2016 model is abandoned for macOS Ventura and will probably only get macOS security patches through next year. I'd probably pay extra for a macOS LTS that actually had 10 years of support. ;-) I expect a lot of machines will be orphaned when macOS switches to ARM-only.
- tcmart14 3y ago
  It sucks, but it is also good. I can pick up an intel mac mini for cheaper and cheaper and they make good little local area servers as long as you don't require them to be as fast as apple silicon.
  - musicale 3y ago
    What OS do you run on them?
    - tcmart14 3y ago
      I have a 2009 with NetBSD 9.3 and recently got a 2011 for under 50 that I installed DragonflyBSD. I use them primarily for ports development. They are not super fast, but good enough to build most packages in a reasonable time to ensure I've got the buildsheet/makefiles correct. Not a mini. But I've also got an iBook G4 that runs OpenBSD.

But wait, everyone keeps telling me that Apple cripples their products after a couple years forcing you to buy their latest version.

by ipqk 3y ago

But wait, everyone keeps telling me that Apple cripples their products after a couple years forcing you to buy their latest version.

lethologica 3y ago

I’m still using a 2015 MacBook Pro. It still runs fine. I’m looking at replacing it with an M3 MacBook Air when they come out though.

jpsouth 3y ago
I've got the M2 Air with 8GB and the only time I've noticed any form of lag is when I've got a K8s cluster running locally with loads of containers. Looking back, the 16GB would have been nice, but it's hardly common that I will put the device under such load.

mcintyre1994 3y ago

There are many Apple devices that are good arguments against that claim, but the barely over a year old M2 Air isn’t one.

whynotmaybe 3y ago

Apple says it. "The company also says its power management update – introduced in 2017 to manage demands on older batteries or with a low level of charge – only reduced an iPhone 6's performance by an average of 10%." https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-fights-2-bln-london-lawsuit-throttling-millions-iphones-2023-05-02/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-fights-2-bln-london...

musicale 3y ago

You might only ("only") get ~7 years of OS updates. A bit of a shame if the hardware is still OK. My 2016 model is abandoned for macOS Ventura and will probably only get macOS security patches through next year. I'd probably pay extra for a macOS LTS that actually had 10 years of support. ;-) I expect a lot of machines will be orphaned when macOS switches to ARM-only.

tcmart14 3y ago
It sucks, but it is also good. I can pick up an intel mac mini for cheaper and cheaper and they make good little local area servers as long as you don't require them to be as fast as apple silicon.
- musicale 3y ago
  What OS do you run on them?
  - tcmart14 3y ago
    I have a 2009 with NetBSD 9.3 and recently got a 2011 for under 50 that I installed DragonflyBSD. I use them primarily for ports development. They are not super fast, but good enough to build most packages in a reasonable time to ensure I've got the buildsheet/makefiles correct. Not a mini. But I've also got an iBook G4 that runs OpenBSD.