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> Every business? A mom and pop grocery store is a business. And what kind of animal would oppose those? They have parents/grand-parents in their name. Surely

> Every business? A mom and pop grocery store is a business. And what kind of animal would oppose those? They have parents/grand-parents in their name. Surely they must be completely wholesome.

pdonis 3y ago
From your snark I gather that you don't think businesses provide any value. So I assume you don't use any goods or services provided by businesses, right?
- avgcorrection 3y ago
  First of all if that was the case then I would obviously not do it since it would be tantamount to throwing money in a hole. So the answer to that is trivial. Second of all my snark was about being completely wholesome. If something is less than wholesome they can still be... okay, not outright bad. Third of all, OP (I don't agree but that's a different matter) was clearly talking about finding a balance between letting businesses pursue profit and keeping them from interfering with the larger public good since they gave an analogy with fire. (The examples with fire seemed a bit out of tune with that though.) We do use fire for good but we also have to contain it very carefully.
  - digging 3y ago
    Oh, you make a good point. I made a mistake with my fire analogy and didn't actually state that I'm pro-fire. I'm glad to have fire and to be able to use it. Not sure profit-seeking behavior is quite as useful, but whatever.
    - pdonis 3y ago
      > Not sure profit-seeking behavior is quite as useful, but whatever. In other words, as I said elsewhere upthread, you just dismiss all the benefits we gain from businesses with "whatever". But if you're able to post here at all, you are taking advantage of numerous benefits provided by businesses. I don't think you are taking that into account. You even admit as much since you're "not sure" businesses are as useful as fire (when in fact businesses are far more useful than fire--businesses overall have created a lot more wealth than our use of fire has).
      - digging 3y ago
        This is so pointless.
  - pdonis 3y ago
    > my snark was about being completely wholesome If "completely wholesome" is your standard, does anything at all in our world meet it? But if we allow wholesomeness to be evaluated on a scale, most businesses seem to me to be a lot more wholesome than the large corporations that buy government regulations and get favored by government policies. So tarring all businesses with the same brush does not seem to me to be a good idea.

> Every business? A mom and pop grocery store is a business. And what kind of animal would oppose those? They have parents/grand-parents in their name. Surely they must be completely wholesome.

pdonis 3y ago

From your snark I gather that you don't think businesses provide any value. So I assume you don't use any goods or services provided by businesses, right?

avgcorrection 3y ago
First of all if that was the case then I would obviously not do it since it would be tantamount to throwing money in a hole. So the answer to that is trivial. Second of all my snark was about being completely wholesome. If something is less than wholesome they can still be... okay, not outright bad. Third of all, OP (I don't agree but that's a different matter) was clearly talking about finding a balance between letting businesses pursue profit and keeping them from interfering with the larger public good since they gave an analogy with fire. (The examples with fire seemed a bit out of tune with that though.) We do use fire for good but we also have to contain it very carefully.
- digging 3y ago
  Oh, you make a good point. I made a mistake with my fire analogy and didn't actually state that I'm pro-fire. I'm glad to have fire and to be able to use it. Not sure profit-seeking behavior is quite as useful, but whatever.
  - pdonis 3y ago
    > Not sure profit-seeking behavior is quite as useful, but whatever. In other words, as I said elsewhere upthread, you just dismiss all the benefits we gain from businesses with "whatever". But if you're able to post here at all, you are taking advantage of numerous benefits provided by businesses. I don't think you are taking that into account. You even admit as much since you're "not sure" businesses are as useful as fire (when in fact businesses are far more useful than fire--businesses overall have created a lot more wealth than our use of fire has).
    - digging 3y ago
      This is so pointless.
- pdonis 3y ago
  > my snark was about being completely wholesome If "completely wholesome" is your standard, does anything at all in our world meet it? But if we allow wholesomeness to be evaluated on a scale, most businesses seem to me to be a lot more wholesome than the large corporations that buy government regulations and get favored by government policies. So tarring all businesses with the same brush does not seem to me to be a good idea.