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> Drastically increasing the retirement age only makes sense to us keyboard jockeys who rarely even see physical labor up close. Data shows that people in physi
by zeroCalories 3y ago
> Drastically increasing the retirement age only makes sense to us keyboard jockeys who rarely even see physical labor up close. Data shows that people in physical jobs start to break down physically in their mid 40s. It's silly to think that these people are going to work until they are 75.
They won't have a choice. The smaller the proportion of workers, the fewer resources we have to spread around. We can tax people up to 100% of all the wealth not needed for them to survive, but if communist experiments in the 20th century are any indication, that will only decrease economic prosperity.
> I mean, let's be frank. We're talking about killing poor old people. Have you looked at Congress lately?
No, realistically we're not killing anyone because old people are the most powerful voting block. Their power will only increase as the population ages. More likely we're going to force young people to carry out debt.
> We need to ask, is our economic system here to serve the human species, or was the human species put on on this planet to serve our (current) economic system? Since modern capitalism has only existed since the Dutch East India Company, I think the answer is obvious.
This would be a problem in any economic system. But I want to put it back to you: should young people work to serve the economic system of old people? Should we force young people into servitude by spending money on their behalf? This wasn't a big problem when there weren't many old people, but with an aging population we're demanding a lot more from them.
- jewayne 3y agoThe problem is neither old people nor young people. The problem is the people who have amassed extraordinary amounts of wealth and truly think that it ALL rightfully belongs to them -- the social security / pensions of retired people and also the wages of working people. We're not crushing young people with social security taxes. We're crushing them with wages that can't pay their bills, with or without social security taxes deducted.
- zeroCalories 3y ago> The problem is neither old people nor young people. The problem is the people who have amassed extraordinary amounts of wealth and truly think that it ALL rightfully belongs to them There are limits to how much you can redistribute. People will simply stop producing taxable income. > We're not crushing young people with social security taxes. We're crushing them with wages that can't pay their bills, with or without social security taxes deducted. Never said we were. But if the population continues to age like we see in places like Japan, we will very quickly find ourselves with huge social security bills.