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> Now with the press nothing more than a rumor mill, all abuses that are happening today may never see the light of day. The press has always been, at best, a

> Now with the press nothing more than a rumor mill, all abuses that are happening today may never see the light of day. The press has always been, at best, a manicured presentation of events that, even at its best, is often hemmed in by external constraints. Some might say that the trashiness of today's press is a symptom of the erosion of elite control over an official narrative. Noise and sensationalism not only sell, but they can also function as distractions.

wolverine876 3y ago
What do you mean by "trashy" and what publications are you referring to? I'm sure it's out there (whatever it is), but thanks to the Internet I have more high-quality journalism to read than would have been conceivable back then. I don't have time for it all.
- amanaplanacanal 3y ago
  I think it’s harder to find, though. The lack of gatekeepers means there is a lot more garbage too. We don’t know yet how this will all turn out. Do we have faith in our fellows to sort through and find the good stuff, or do we assume they will mostly get sucked in by the best propaganda? Of course we always assume that we can tell the difference.
  - wolverine876 3y ago
    > I think it’s harder to find, though. There is a much higher volume of trash and a much higher percentage of trash, but it's still not hard to find the quality reporting. There are a lot of surveillance-infested messaging apps, but whether there are zero or 10,000 of them, it's just as easy to install Signal. For news, there's the NY Times, Financial Times, Washington Post, ... PBS NewsHour is effing amazing. Also the AP, NBC/ABC/CBS, Reuters, AFP, BBC, etc. Who can read them all? I don't need to worry about the mountains of trash. > Do we have faith in our fellows to sort through and find the good stuff, or do we assume they will mostly get sucked in by the best propaganda? Well, I do have to worry about it because lots of people do get their news from trash (partly due to certain forces demonizing jouralism along with anything else that stands in their way), and their misinformation has an enormous affect on my life and the world. Misinformation is the primary cause of climate change, as an example - seriously: no misinfo, no climate change problem. > Of course we always assume that we can tell the difference. Yes, of course. The moment you start thinking that, you're the sucker, a walking talking mark. You, not me, that is. (just kidding)

wolverine876 3y ago

What do you mean by "trashy" and what publications are you referring to? I'm sure it's out there (whatever it is), but thanks to the Internet I have more high-quality journalism to read than would have been conceivable back then. I don't have time for it all.

amanaplanacanal 3y ago
I think it’s harder to find, though. The lack of gatekeepers means there is a lot more garbage too. We don’t know yet how this will all turn out. Do we have faith in our fellows to sort through and find the good stuff, or do we assume they will mostly get sucked in by the best propaganda? Of course we always assume that we can tell the difference.
- wolverine876 3y ago
  > I think it’s harder to find, though. There is a much higher volume of trash and a much higher percentage of trash, but it's still not hard to find the quality reporting. There are a lot of surveillance-infested messaging apps, but whether there are zero or 10,000 of them, it's just as easy to install Signal. For news, there's the NY Times, Financial Times, Washington Post, ... PBS NewsHour is effing amazing. Also the AP, NBC/ABC/CBS, Reuters, AFP, BBC, etc. Who can read them all? I don't need to worry about the mountains of trash. > Do we have faith in our fellows to sort through and find the good stuff, or do we assume they will mostly get sucked in by the best propaganda? Well, I do have to worry about it because lots of people do get their news from trash (partly due to certain forces demonizing jouralism along with anything else that stands in their way), and their misinformation has an enormous affect on my life and the world. Misinformation is the primary cause of climate change, as an example - seriously: no misinfo, no climate change problem. > Of course we always assume that we can tell the difference. Yes, of course. The moment you start thinking that, you're the sucker, a walking talking mark. You, not me, that is. (just kidding)