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If the surge of indie game popularity has shown anything, it's that games can be 8-bit hot pixellated messes but still touted as visual masterpieces as long as

If the surge of indie game popularity has shown anything, it's that games can be 8-bit hot pixellated messes but still touted as visual masterpieces as long as there's a decent global lighting engine somewhere in the mix. I think, as you say, AI will be the next paradigm for gamers, and having specialised chips on these GPUs that can turn a scripted NPC story-based interaction into a do-what-you-want-under-these-contraints a la "AI town"[1] might keep them in business a little longer before they have to start upping the visuals again. 1: https://github.com/a16z-infra/ai-town https://github.com/a16z-infra/ai-town

danaris 3y ago
Even more importantly, a game can have crunchy 8-bit graphics that no one praises, but still be an amazing game. No one (at least that I've heard) is saying, for instance, that Undertale or Deltarune are "visual masterpieces". They don't need to be. They're well-made games that do and say some interesting things.
- sph 3y ago
  Pixel art or 3d... graphics are overrated. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1388770/Cruelty_Squad/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1388770/Cruelty_Squad/ (Haven't had the chance to play yet, but I've heard great things)
- SteveMoody73 3y ago
  I don't play many modern games. Not really interested in the latest consoles and my graphics card in the PC is around 8 years old. It seems a lot of games now require a large time investment and not for causal gamers. If I want to play a games these days I normally go to emulators and back to old games. Old arcade games and computer games from the 80s and 90s era may look dated but some of them are more fun.
  - rjh29 3y ago
    While AAA games do tend to be bloated with extra content, it is all optional. The main quests usually take only 10-20 hours. Also, the current trend is to make games more accessible and actually better for casual gamers. Most games now have customisable difficulty and quality of life features. When I think of 80s and 90s games I think of dying a lot and having to replay, not being able to figure things out without buying a walkthrough, no quicksave etc.
  - coldpie 3y ago
    > It seems a lot of games now require a large time investment and not for causal gamers. Whaaaat?? Nothing wrong with emulators, but there's tons of great, short, casual games out there! Here's a list of some of my favorites to get started, you can find a ton more of you search for lists containing some of these titles: Gris, Journey, A Short Hike, The Witness, Oxenfree, Celeste. And if you really want to dig deep into the short/indie games scene, check out https://itch.io https://itch.io (though it can be kinda hard to find the gems there).
morjom 3y ago
1. Gameplay 2. Art Style ?. Sound Design (unsure if under gameplay or on its own). 3. Graphical Fidelity This is what people look for in a game and what sells them, atleast in my opinion. Some of biggest mainstream games of the last decade or so are Minecraft, and Fortnite.
- rjh29 3y ago
  Zelda TOTK (and its prequel) are some of the best games in video game history and run on the underpowered Switch at 30fps. The gameplay is what makes them good.
- rollcat 3y ago
  StarCraft (1998) remained big, right as every single RTS released after it went 3D. StarCraft II is usually played competitively on low graphics settings, to improve visual clarity. The game is 13 years old, and on high graphics still looks fine when compared to any modern title.
  - ndriscoll 3y ago
    The other day when there was a post about Starfield, it was quite striking to me how visually indistinct and cluttered everything is[0], like the people don't stand out from the scenery. The visual technology for Starfield is certainly less primitive (though every single thing looks like it's made out of glossy plastic to me), but I can't help but notice that something like ETLegacy feels much easier to visually process[1]. ETLegacy is also capable of maintaining 333 FPS at 4k almost all of the time if I set the cap that high, even on my now out-of-date GTX 1070. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=PISGdO_G8dY https://youtube.com/watch?v=PISGdO_G8dY [1] https://youtube.com/watch?v=iP6ihgnyHE0 https://youtube.com/watch?v=iP6ihgnyHE0

danaris 3y ago

Even more importantly, a game can have crunchy 8-bit graphics that no one praises, but still be an amazing game. No one (at least that I've heard) is saying, for instance, that Undertale or Deltarune are "visual masterpieces". They don't need to be. They're well-made games that do and say some interesting things.

sph 3y ago
Pixel art or 3d... graphics are overrated. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1388770/Cruelty_Squad/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1388770/Cruelty_Squad/ (Haven't had the chance to play yet, but I've heard great things)
SteveMoody73 3y ago
I don't play many modern games. Not really interested in the latest consoles and my graphics card in the PC is around 8 years old. It seems a lot of games now require a large time investment and not for causal gamers. If I want to play a games these days I normally go to emulators and back to old games. Old arcade games and computer games from the 80s and 90s era may look dated but some of them are more fun.
- rjh29 3y ago
  While AAA games do tend to be bloated with extra content, it is all optional. The main quests usually take only 10-20 hours. Also, the current trend is to make games more accessible and actually better for casual gamers. Most games now have customisable difficulty and quality of life features. When I think of 80s and 90s games I think of dying a lot and having to replay, not being able to figure things out without buying a walkthrough, no quicksave etc.
- coldpie 3y ago
  > It seems a lot of games now require a large time investment and not for causal gamers. Whaaaat?? Nothing wrong with emulators, but there's tons of great, short, casual games out there! Here's a list of some of my favorites to get started, you can find a ton more of you search for lists containing some of these titles: Gris, Journey, A Short Hike, The Witness, Oxenfree, Celeste. And if you really want to dig deep into the short/indie games scene, check out https://itch.io https://itch.io (though it can be kinda hard to find the gems there).

morjom 3y ago

1. Gameplay 2. Art Style ?. Sound Design (unsure if under gameplay or on its own). 3. Graphical Fidelity This is what people look for in a game and what sells them, atleast in my opinion. Some of biggest mainstream games of the last decade or so are Minecraft, and Fortnite.

rjh29 3y ago
Zelda TOTK (and its prequel) are some of the best games in video game history and run on the underpowered Switch at 30fps. The gameplay is what makes them good.
rollcat 3y ago
StarCraft (1998) remained big, right as every single RTS released after it went 3D. StarCraft II is usually played competitively on low graphics settings, to improve visual clarity. The game is 13 years old, and on high graphics still looks fine when compared to any modern title.
- ndriscoll 3y ago
  The other day when there was a post about Starfield, it was quite striking to me how visually indistinct and cluttered everything is[0], like the people don't stand out from the scenery. The visual technology for Starfield is certainly less primitive (though every single thing looks like it's made out of glossy plastic to me), but I can't help but notice that something like ETLegacy feels much easier to visually process[1]. ETLegacy is also capable of maintaining 333 FPS at 4k almost all of the time if I set the cap that high, even on my now out-of-date GTX 1070. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=PISGdO_G8dY https://youtube.com/watch?v=PISGdO_G8dY [1] https://youtube.com/watch?v=iP6ihgnyHE0 https://youtube.com/watch?v=iP6ihgnyHE0