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I don't know your situation, but as for the sentiment, it sounds like you really resent this. My only advice is that you accept it and do it wholeheartedly. Ass

I don't know your situation, but as for the sentiment, it sounds like you really resent this. My only advice is that you accept it and do it wholeheartedly. Assuming you can't change the situation, being at peace is sometimes worth more than money. If you want extra motivation, keep in mind that raising a child (you!) is very expensive. If you paid everything back, it might be around the ballpark of paying some rent for your mother (or, way more...).

swozey 3y ago
This is an absolutely ludicrous statement. I don't owe my mother for the birth or childhood that I wasn't around to give approval to having. Nor do I owe her an ounce of positivity that I'm paying her rent while she's owned and sold more houses and motorcycles and everything else while I've been estranged from her since I was kicked out of the house at 16 and she votes for Trump and republicans who want to eradicate the $1200/mo she lives off of outside of my money. Be at peace.. my god.. lol. I don't have children, and won't have children. I don't expect anyone to pay for my old age.
toomuchtodo 3y ago
I have had to provide material support to both of my parents, one of whom died suddenly, the other who is still around and resents my success while I provide almost all of their support. I provide the support because it's the "right" thing to do, but I fault no one who tells a parent to pound sand because they fucked up their life. How terrible of a person one must be to have children and then expect them to provide for them. You owe your parents nothing, it was their choice to have you, and their life to live. Maybe support social safety nets instead of pushing your terrible choices directly onto your children.
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- genman 3y ago
  You are actually mistaken completely. There s no your or theirs. It's all the same system, the cycle of life so to say and it's all connected. Just out of curiosity - were you the only child in the family?
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    No. I have several siblings, and we are all aligned on our position. If you are down on your luck because of unfortunate circumstances, a hand will be extended. Life is unfair, and more often than not, people fail through no fault of their own. Fuck up your own life willingly, godspeed. Especially so if you will treat us poorly in the course of help being provided. > You are actually mistaken completely. There s no your or theirs. It's all the same system, the cycle of life so to say and it's all connected. If you'd like to provide for my irresponsible, conservative, self absorbed parent, let me know, I can provide logistics info. I have had my fill for this lifetime. Compassion and self preservation must exist in tension.
    - genman 3y ago
      Lol, thanks for the offer but I see that your parents did a good job by raising enough children who would replace them and keep working. They did their part and this is the only thing I care about.
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      - toomuchtodo 3y ago
        Don't get too excited, I donate to https://www.stophavingkids.org/ https://www.stophavingkids.org/ and similar efforts (helping provide funding to folks trying to get permanent birth control to affirm their reproductive choices).
        genman 3y ago
        Does this campaign target societies with excess child raring or societies what are about to collapse (that is all clearly below 2.1 children on average per woman)? If the first, then this is the right thing to do as we have to find a balance (and we know where the balance is exactly), if the last then fy seriously, because it only makes the matter worse and doesn't give any help - a positive exponential process always trumps the negative one - you have to make all of them negative or close to 0 to actually succeed, of course negative process is also a dead end in the long run. Do you understand this?

swozey 3y ago

This is an absolutely ludicrous statement. I don't owe my mother for the birth or childhood that I wasn't around to give approval to having. Nor do I owe her an ounce of positivity that I'm paying her rent while she's owned and sold more houses and motorcycles and everything else while I've been estranged from her since I was kicked out of the house at 16 and she votes for Trump and republicans who want to eradicate the $1200/mo she lives off of outside of my money. Be at peace.. my god.. lol. I don't have children, and won't have children. I don't expect anyone to pay for my old age.

toomuchtodo 3y ago

I have had to provide material support to both of my parents, one of whom died suddenly, the other who is still around and resents my success while I provide almost all of their support. I provide the support because it's the "right" thing to do, but I fault no one who tells a parent to pound sand because they fucked up their life. How terrible of a person one must be to have children and then expect them to provide for them. You owe your parents nothing, it was their choice to have you, and their life to live. Maybe support social safety nets instead of pushing your terrible choices directly onto your children.

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genman 3y ago
You are actually mistaken completely. There s no your or theirs. It's all the same system, the cycle of life so to say and it's all connected. Just out of curiosity - were you the only child in the family?
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  No. I have several siblings, and we are all aligned on our position. If you are down on your luck because of unfortunate circumstances, a hand will be extended. Life is unfair, and more often than not, people fail through no fault of their own. Fuck up your own life willingly, godspeed. Especially so if you will treat us poorly in the course of help being provided. > You are actually mistaken completely. There s no your or theirs. It's all the same system, the cycle of life so to say and it's all connected. If you'd like to provide for my irresponsible, conservative, self absorbed parent, let me know, I can provide logistics info. I have had my fill for this lifetime. Compassion and self preservation must exist in tension.
  - genman 3y ago
    Lol, thanks for the offer but I see that your parents did a good job by raising enough children who would replace them and keep working. They did their part and this is the only thing I care about.
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    - toomuchtodo 3y ago
      Don't get too excited, I donate to https://www.stophavingkids.org/ https://www.stophavingkids.org/ and similar efforts (helping provide funding to folks trying to get permanent birth control to affirm their reproductive choices).
      - genman 3y ago
        Does this campaign target societies with excess child raring or societies what are about to collapse (that is all clearly below 2.1 children on average per woman)? If the first, then this is the right thing to do as we have to find a balance (and we know where the balance is exactly), if the last then fy seriously, because it only makes the matter worse and doesn't give any help - a positive exponential process always trumps the negative one - you have to make all of them negative or close to 0 to actually succeed, of course negative process is also a dead end in the long run. Do you understand this?