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i believe the exact opposite thing. [1] is a meticulous story about Intels larrabee screwup. nvidia and ati are already defacto for high end gaming and graphic

i believe the exact opposite thing. [1] is a meticulous story about Intels larrabee screwup. nvidia and ati are already defacto for high end gaming and graphics - intel is going to find that hard to beat, short of an acquisition. windows 8 will be arm optmized, which means that intel is genuinely worried. nvidia's tegra is already being used for servers ... and of course, people are buying many more tablets than laptops. ps3 graphics capable handsets will be out in 2013, so intel is truly looking for ways to stay relevant in an ipad world. [1] www.brightsideofnews.com/print/2009/10/12/an-inconvenient-truth-intel-larrabee-story-revealed.aspx

pvarangot 15y ago
> so intel is truly looking for ways to stay relevant in an ipad world. They can stay relevant in gaming. When/if PCs fade out and we go back to a big servers/workstation/thin client world Intel will be able to live in the three of them. They are already doing well in big servers and workstations, and I think they are the only ones currently in a position to be the dominant provider of technology for the "gaming thin client", whatever it will look like... I don't know if it will be more like a console, or more of a small PC you plug into your TV. NVIDIA only has something to offer for the workstation type of PC.
- sandGorgon 15y ago
  why do you say that ? Intel has nothing like Tegra (Clover Trail is not shipping yet) - which is already a GPU + CPU hybrid SOC. You dont need a separate CPU. Windows 8 is already running on Tegra 3 - http://www.anandtech.com/show/5614/microsoft-shows-windows-8-cp-on-tegra-3-krait-omap-5-clover-trail http://www.anandtech.com/show/5614/microsoft-shows-windows-8... Plus, the big big reason is that there is already a ton of content out there from big publishers that is Tegra optimized. Tegra has been very successful in the thin client/ipad world and is looking to screw with Intel's server world with Project Denver. I'm not even talking about nvidia's next gen Kepler graphics card released this week with serious power optimizations - Intel is seriously far away from that world. In short, intel has 0 in graphics capabilities - while nvidia has 0.75 in cpu capabilities.
jedbrown 15y ago
We won't know whether Larrabee was a screw-up until we see how successful Knight's Corner is. A lot of groups are currently running prototypes under NDA. It's a programming model debate as much as anything, the hardware capability is available in both models.
- ssp 15y ago
  It was an epic screw-up to position it as a head-to-head competitor with NVIDIA and ATI for Direct3d. They should have positioned it as an HPC chip from the beginning and then perhaps later said: "Oh, btw, it has these texture samplers, so let's make a video driver just to see how this CPU of ours compares to GPUs for gaming." That would have set expectations at a much more realistic level.

pvarangot 15y ago

> so intel is truly looking for ways to stay relevant in an ipad world. They can stay relevant in gaming. When/if PCs fade out and we go back to a big servers/workstation/thin client world Intel will be able to live in the three of them. They are already doing well in big servers and workstations, and I think they are the only ones currently in a position to be the dominant provider of technology for the "gaming thin client", whatever it will look like... I don't know if it will be more like a console, or more of a small PC you plug into your TV. NVIDIA only has something to offer for the workstation type of PC.

sandGorgon 15y ago
why do you say that ? Intel has nothing like Tegra (Clover Trail is not shipping yet) - which is already a GPU + CPU hybrid SOC. You dont need a separate CPU. Windows 8 is already running on Tegra 3 - http://www.anandtech.com/show/5614/microsoft-shows-windows-8-cp-on-tegra-3-krait-omap-5-clover-trail http://www.anandtech.com/show/5614/microsoft-shows-windows-8... Plus, the big big reason is that there is already a ton of content out there from big publishers that is Tegra optimized. Tegra has been very successful in the thin client/ipad world and is looking to screw with Intel's server world with Project Denver. I'm not even talking about nvidia's next gen Kepler graphics card released this week with serious power optimizations - Intel is seriously far away from that world. In short, intel has 0 in graphics capabilities - while nvidia has 0.75 in cpu capabilities.

jedbrown 15y ago

We won't know whether Larrabee was a screw-up until we see how successful Knight's Corner is. A lot of groups are currently running prototypes under NDA. It's a programming model debate as much as anything, the hardware capability is available in both models.

ssp 15y ago
It was an epic screw-up to position it as a head-to-head competitor with NVIDIA and ATI for Direct3d. They should have positioned it as an HPC chip from the beginning and then perhaps later said: "Oh, btw, it has these texture samplers, so let's make a video driver just to see how this CPU of ours compares to GPUs for gaming." That would have set expectations at a much more realistic level.