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The answer is at https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/ https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/

by thanatos519 3y ago

xnx 3y ago
If people already voluntarily live in Phoenix, climate change will be manageable for most in the US.
yellow_lead 3y ago
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p-a_58213 3y ago
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hotpotamus 3y ago
I didn't realize we were bumping up on the record high again. I have to say that when I look at that chart, it is hard to believe that anything matters anymore anyway, so I suppose it's fair not to worry about retirement.
- mcv 3y ago
  Everything matters. I don't understand why it's so hard to change anything. That's the frustrating part.
  - fsloth 3y ago
    The cynical person in me thinks it's because most predictions place the worst outcomes to the poorest countries on the globe, while those with highest economic impact will be affected much less. There isn't a super massive incentive to change things very fast. Also, we can't cut oil use cold turkey, as literally our whole civilization runs on it, including food production.
    - mcv 3y ago
      We wouldn't have had to cut oil cold turkey if only we'd started to dramatically reduce our dependency on oil 30 years ago. We did some, but it's marginal, while oil and even coal use has gone up. We should at the very least agreed on a moratorium on building new oil and coal power plants. And tax fossil fuels instead of subsidising them.
      - fsloth 3y ago
        For sure. Also, should have invested heavily into fission power via any method necessary (state subsidies etc).
logicchains 3y ago
Hmm? The increase in average temperature from 1981 (the earliest on that chart) to now hasn't had any meaningful impact on people's standard of living. Why should a similar increase over the next 40 years be any different?
- boringuser2 3y ago
  Because THE END IS NIGH, HEAR YE, HEAR YE. There's truly nothing new under the sun for human beings, we just keep play-acting out patterns etched by millions of years of evolution.
  - ben_w 3y ago
    > There's truly nothing new under the sun for human beings, we just keep play-acting out patterns etched by millions of years of evolution. Like flying to the moon, and launching artificial satellites in greater numbers than naked-eye distinguishable stars, and some more to places so remote that even the sun is naught but a bright star; like flying above the clouds, around the world, and faster than sound; like refining metals from sand, poisoning it, etching on literally occult symbols (the word means hidden and they are smaller than light itself) and feeding them artificial lightning in order to trick it into doing our thinking for us; like transmuting metals and gasses to create weapons that can level cities and moderate-sized hills; like altering the global balance of fauna to be overwhelmingly us, our pets, and our livestock, with only a small fraction of the total now being wild animals; like wiping out entire diseases, learning to see colours beyond those our eyes can perceive (and also with sound) in order to look within living bodies; like having the power of Morpheus to keep someone asleep throughout as their heart is removed and replaced without killing them; like the power to read and write the language of life to bend it to our will, giving us spider-silk yeast?
    - boringuser2 3y ago
      Uninteresting reply because you've made a fundamental categorical error. I was clearly referring to psycho-social patterns, not arbitrary lists of technology.
fsloth 3y ago
Unrelated to how fucked up the worst off areas will become (which will be very bad) - I guess it still depends where you live. There are some areas of the planet that are currently rich and can acquire everything their population needs reasonably robustly for the foreseeable future.
refurb 3y ago
Please note that any apparent record high daily temperature in OISST should be evaluated against other datasets.
gruez 3y ago
Climate change is going to be a humanitarian disaster for the developing world, but for the typical readership of this site and probably most developed country residents, it's basically a non-issue.
- jakeinspace 3y ago
  That is hilariously optimistic. Massive crop failures on the other side of the world could alter your quality of life to a degree you might be surprised by.
  - gruez 3y ago
    >Massive crop failures on the other side of the world could alter your quality of life to a degree you might be surprised by. Again, this is something that's going to be a humanitarian disaster for the developing world, but a non-issue for the developed world because: 1. they can afford agricultural subsidies/crop insurance to protect farmers 2. they can afford consumer subsidies (eg. reliefs that european governments gave to consumers after the ukarine invasion) 3. there's tremendous slack in the food system. In the US only 27% of crops are used for feeding humans, the rest are used for livestock and biofuel [1] 4. Food represents a small fraction of Americans (and likely other developed countries)'s overall budget around 11%, and only a small fraction of that is actually spent on the crop itself[2]. In the worst case we have to switch to eating meats every week rather than every day and spend a bit more of our budget on food, but that's not exactly "fucked". [1] https://www.vox.com/2014/8/21/6053187/cropland-map-food-fuel-animal-feed https://www.vox.com/2014/8/21/6053187/cropland-map-food-fuel... [2] https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ag-and-food-statistics-charting-the-essentials/food-prices-and-spending/?topicId=2b168260-a717-4708-a264-cb354e815c67 https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ag-and-food-statistic...
    - jakeinspace 3y ago
      To clarify, I meant secondary economic/trade effects, not that the US directly depends on foreign food. If Asia experienced widespread famine and had its capability to export dry up suddenly, that would impact western standards of living quite a lot.

The answer is at https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/ https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/

xnx 3y ago

If people already voluntarily live in Phoenix, climate change will be manageable for most in the US.

yellow_lead 3y ago

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p-a_58213 3y ago

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hotpotamus 3y ago

I didn't realize we were bumping up on the record high again. I have to say that when I look at that chart, it is hard to believe that anything matters anymore anyway, so I suppose it's fair not to worry about retirement.

mcv 3y ago
Everything matters. I don't understand why it's so hard to change anything. That's the frustrating part.
- fsloth 3y ago
  The cynical person in me thinks it's because most predictions place the worst outcomes to the poorest countries on the globe, while those with highest economic impact will be affected much less. There isn't a super massive incentive to change things very fast. Also, we can't cut oil use cold turkey, as literally our whole civilization runs on it, including food production.
  - mcv 3y ago
    We wouldn't have had to cut oil cold turkey if only we'd started to dramatically reduce our dependency on oil 30 years ago. We did some, but it's marginal, while oil and even coal use has gone up. We should at the very least agreed on a moratorium on building new oil and coal power plants. And tax fossil fuels instead of subsidising them.
    - fsloth 3y ago
      For sure. Also, should have invested heavily into fission power via any method necessary (state subsidies etc).

logicchains 3y ago

Hmm? The increase in average temperature from 1981 (the earliest on that chart) to now hasn't had any meaningful impact on people's standard of living. Why should a similar increase over the next 40 years be any different?

boringuser2 3y ago
Because THE END IS NIGH, HEAR YE, HEAR YE. There's truly nothing new under the sun for human beings, we just keep play-acting out patterns etched by millions of years of evolution.
- ben_w 3y ago
  > There's truly nothing new under the sun for human beings, we just keep play-acting out patterns etched by millions of years of evolution. Like flying to the moon, and launching artificial satellites in greater numbers than naked-eye distinguishable stars, and some more to places so remote that even the sun is naught but a bright star; like flying above the clouds, around the world, and faster than sound; like refining metals from sand, poisoning it, etching on literally occult symbols (the word means hidden and they are smaller than light itself) and feeding them artificial lightning in order to trick it into doing our thinking for us; like transmuting metals and gasses to create weapons that can level cities and moderate-sized hills; like altering the global balance of fauna to be overwhelmingly us, our pets, and our livestock, with only a small fraction of the total now being wild animals; like wiping out entire diseases, learning to see colours beyond those our eyes can perceive (and also with sound) in order to look within living bodies; like having the power of Morpheus to keep someone asleep throughout as their heart is removed and replaced without killing them; like the power to read and write the language of life to bend it to our will, giving us spider-silk yeast?
  - boringuser2 3y ago
    Uninteresting reply because you've made a fundamental categorical error. I was clearly referring to psycho-social patterns, not arbitrary lists of technology.

fsloth 3y ago

Unrelated to how fucked up the worst off areas will become (which will be very bad) - I guess it still depends where you live. There are some areas of the planet that are currently rich and can acquire everything their population needs reasonably robustly for the foreseeable future.

refurb 3y ago

Please note that any apparent record high daily temperature in OISST should be evaluated against other datasets.

gruez 3y ago

Climate change is going to be a humanitarian disaster for the developing world, but for the typical readership of this site and probably most developed country residents, it's basically a non-issue.

jakeinspace 3y ago
That is hilariously optimistic. Massive crop failures on the other side of the world could alter your quality of life to a degree you might be surprised by.
- gruez 3y ago
  >Massive crop failures on the other side of the world could alter your quality of life to a degree you might be surprised by. Again, this is something that's going to be a humanitarian disaster for the developing world, but a non-issue for the developed world because: 1. they can afford agricultural subsidies/crop insurance to protect farmers 2. they can afford consumer subsidies (eg. reliefs that european governments gave to consumers after the ukarine invasion) 3. there's tremendous slack in the food system. In the US only 27% of crops are used for feeding humans, the rest are used for livestock and biofuel [1] 4. Food represents a small fraction of Americans (and likely other developed countries)'s overall budget around 11%, and only a small fraction of that is actually spent on the crop itself[2]. In the worst case we have to switch to eating meats every week rather than every day and spend a bit more of our budget on food, but that's not exactly "fucked". [1] https://www.vox.com/2014/8/21/6053187/cropland-map-food-fuel-animal-feed https://www.vox.com/2014/8/21/6053187/cropland-map-food-fuel... [2] https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ag-and-food-statistics-charting-the-essentials/food-prices-and-spending/?topicId=2b168260-a717-4708-a264-cb354e815c67 https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ag-and-food-statistic...
  - jakeinspace 3y ago
    To clarify, I meant secondary economic/trade effects, not that the US directly depends on foreign food. If Asia experienced widespread famine and had its capability to export dry up suddenly, that would impact western standards of living quite a lot.