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Have you seen modern plumbing? Solar heaters for water, grey water reclamation systems, hydronic heating, smart controllers for garden sprinklers. I've talked

Have you seen modern plumbing? Solar heaters for water, grey water reclamation systems, hydronic heating, smart controllers for garden sprinklers. I've talked to quite a few very smart plumbers. The ones at the top of the field (earning good $) work with complex setups.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
Majority of plumbing work (which also pays well) is still just fixing legacy pipework from old building that's decaying and needing repairs or replacements, not installing the latest heat-pump powered 'Butt-Squirter 2000', which still uses the same plumbing concepts of the last 100 years.
- dagw 3y ago
  Majority of plumbing work (which also pays well) Does it? Last time I had major plumbing work done, a guy showed up in a very nice car (he no doubt earned very well) looked at what needed to be done and gave us quote. The two guys who barely spoke English and where on site 8-10 hours a day for a week actually doing the actual work probably earned considerably less.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    >The two guys who barely spoke English and where on site 8-10 hours a day for a week actually doing the actual work probably earned considerably less. US might be a different beast. I live in western Europe where qualified plumbers earn well because it's a credentialed job and labor exploitation of migrants in credentialed Jobs is less of an issue (but still does happen). You can't just hire some migrants off the street and send them off to do plumbing for you. A plumber in Denmark can sometimes earn more than a SW developer.
- com2kid 3y ago
  > Majority of plumbing work (which also pays well) is still just fixing legacy pipework from old building that's decaying and needing repairs or replacements, not installing the latest heat-pump powered 'Butt-Squirter 2000', which still uses the same plumbing concepts of the last 100 years. This describes software engineering as well, it is just that this site is biased towards people building new stuff rather than engineers who do maintenance work! FWIW the plumbers I know live in nice custom houses and enjoy learning about new things all the time.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

Majority of plumbing work (which also pays well) is still just fixing legacy pipework from old building that's decaying and needing repairs or replacements, not installing the latest heat-pump powered 'Butt-Squirter 2000', which still uses the same plumbing concepts of the last 100 years.

dagw 3y ago
Majority of plumbing work (which also pays well) Does it? Last time I had major plumbing work done, a guy showed up in a very nice car (he no doubt earned very well) looked at what needed to be done and gave us quote. The two guys who barely spoke English and where on site 8-10 hours a day for a week actually doing the actual work probably earned considerably less.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  >The two guys who barely spoke English and where on site 8-10 hours a day for a week actually doing the actual work probably earned considerably less. US might be a different beast. I live in western Europe where qualified plumbers earn well because it's a credentialed job and labor exploitation of migrants in credentialed Jobs is less of an issue (but still does happen). You can't just hire some migrants off the street and send them off to do plumbing for you. A plumber in Denmark can sometimes earn more than a SW developer.
com2kid 3y ago
> Majority of plumbing work (which also pays well) is still just fixing legacy pipework from old building that's decaying and needing repairs or replacements, not installing the latest heat-pump powered 'Butt-Squirter 2000', which still uses the same plumbing concepts of the last 100 years. This describes software engineering as well, it is just that this site is biased towards people building new stuff rather than engineers who do maintenance work! FWIW the plumbers I know live in nice custom houses and enjoy learning about new things all the time.