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I was under the impression there was overwhelming effort put into environmental maintenance on-site - ensuring that as much as possible, all traces of the yearl

I was under the impression there was overwhelming effort put into environmental maintenance on-site - ensuring that as much as possible, all traces of the yearly occupation are eliminated after the end of the event.

paulryanrogers 3y ago
Efforts to leave no trace should be applauded, yet the event demands emitting a lot of carbon: - travel to and from - consumables and their transport - air conditioning onsite - burning things
- ecf 3y ago
  A person traveling to this event doesn’t even register as a blip on the carbon emissions scale, please stop this rhetoric that implies your average person can have any meaningful impact.
  - jwandborg 3y ago
    Every person is part of the definition of the average person. Of course, you can take a look at the outliers, but they are rare, by definition. If you start segmenting the set of people along all possible dimensions in order to find "local outliers", then eventually, everyone will become an outlier in one of the sets. I think it's reasonable to say that everyone should do as well as they can, and if everyone does that, the average person will have an impact.
- syndicatedjelly 3y ago
  So what’s the solution? Ban people from participating in activities where they have to travel too far?
  - philihp 3y ago
    An almond tax would probably balance it out.
  - tinus_hn 3y ago
    Reinstate the fun police from the COVID era. These people will decide for you how you will be allowed to entertain yourself. That means no gathering in groups, no traveling and an end to all that frivolous activity such as dancing and drinking. You will sit around the tv with your family and watch what they provide for you to watch.
- mock-possum 3y ago
  carbon-negative is the goal within the next decade - https://burningman.medium.com/burning-man-project-2030-environmental-sustainability-roadmap-c79657e18146 https://burningman.medium.com/burning-man-project-2030-envir...

paulryanrogers 3y ago

Efforts to leave no trace should be applauded, yet the event demands emitting a lot of carbon: - travel to and from - consumables and their transport - air conditioning onsite - burning things

ecf 3y ago
A person traveling to this event doesn’t even register as a blip on the carbon emissions scale, please stop this rhetoric that implies your average person can have any meaningful impact.
- jwandborg 3y ago
  Every person is part of the definition of the average person. Of course, you can take a look at the outliers, but they are rare, by definition. If you start segmenting the set of people along all possible dimensions in order to find "local outliers", then eventually, everyone will become an outlier in one of the sets. I think it's reasonable to say that everyone should do as well as they can, and if everyone does that, the average person will have an impact.
syndicatedjelly 3y ago
So what’s the solution? Ban people from participating in activities where they have to travel too far?
- philihp 3y ago
  An almond tax would probably balance it out.
- tinus_hn 3y ago
  Reinstate the fun police from the COVID era. These people will decide for you how you will be allowed to entertain yourself. That means no gathering in groups, no traveling and an end to all that frivolous activity such as dancing and drinking. You will sit around the tv with your family and watch what they provide for you to watch.
mock-possum 3y ago
carbon-negative is the goal within the next decade - https://burningman.medium.com/burning-man-project-2030-environmental-sustainability-roadmap-c79657e18146 https://burningman.medium.com/burning-man-project-2030-envir...