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Also helpful: running the sink's hot water before you run the dishwasher, until it heats up, so that the dishwasher has access to hot water from the moment it s

Also helpful: running the sink's hot water before you run the dishwasher, until it heats up, so that the dishwasher has access to hot water from the moment it starts.

readthenotes1 3y ago
Which can waste a bunch of water. I do mine by hand and am often done before the hot water arrives.
- db48x 3y ago
  Then your house was built badly. But you can repair it by installing an instant water heater that goes under the sink.
  - shaklee3 3y ago
    You would need two since the dishwasher usually has its own dedicated hot valve
    - eurleif 3y ago
      That, or a tee fitting.
      - db48x 3y ago
        Yea, tee fittings are cheap.
PeterStuer 3y ago
The world outside the US just hooks dishwashers up to the cold water supply and it washes just fine. Are US machines different?
- chongli 3y ago
  Yes. North American dishwashers don’t heat the water during the prewash cycle because the duration in time is too short and the 120V electrical service can’t supply enough power to heat the water quickly during that time. European dishwashers use 240V (like everything else in the house) and so they can heat water much more quickly. This electrical difference is also reflected in the fact that electric kettles (for boiling water) aren’t nearly as popular in North America as they are in Europe. Technology Connections also did a video on this topic [1]. [1] https://youtu.be/_yMMTVVJI4c https://youtu.be/_yMMTVVJI4c
  - dboreham 3y ago
    As a former British person I'm not sure this is true now. The 220V supply part is true, but you can buy electric kettles at Costco and they boil plenty fast on 120V and everyone who drinks tea has one in my experience.
    - daveoc64 3y ago
      It's sort of a physical impossibility. If your kettle is limited to 1500W, it's always going to be slower than a kettle operating at 3000W.
    - wongarsu 3y ago
      Just checking Amazon, most popular local (230V) kettles are 2200W, with some 2400W options. Checking Costco, US kettles are 1500W. Assuming equal efficiency, the European kettle takes between 62% and 68% the time it takes a US kettle to boil the same water Of course equal efficiency isn't necessarily a given. The insulation and the design of the heating element can have a notable impact on heating time. And for small amounts it likely doesn't matter that much. But assuming equal construction it is still a very notable difference.

Also helpful: running the sink's hot water before you run the dishwasher, until it heats up, so that the dishwasher has access to hot water from the moment it starts.

readthenotes1 3y ago

Which can waste a bunch of water. I do mine by hand and am often done before the hot water arrives.

db48x 3y ago
Then your house was built badly. But you can repair it by installing an instant water heater that goes under the sink.
- shaklee3 3y ago
  You would need two since the dishwasher usually has its own dedicated hot valve
  - eurleif 3y ago
    That, or a tee fitting.
    - db48x 3y ago
      Yea, tee fittings are cheap.

PeterStuer 3y ago

The world outside the US just hooks dishwashers up to the cold water supply and it washes just fine. Are US machines different?

chongli 3y ago
Yes. North American dishwashers don’t heat the water during the prewash cycle because the duration in time is too short and the 120V electrical service can’t supply enough power to heat the water quickly during that time. European dishwashers use 240V (like everything else in the house) and so they can heat water much more quickly. This electrical difference is also reflected in the fact that electric kettles (for boiling water) aren’t nearly as popular in North America as they are in Europe. Technology Connections also did a video on this topic [1]. [1] https://youtu.be/_yMMTVVJI4c https://youtu.be/_yMMTVVJI4c
- dboreham 3y ago
  As a former British person I'm not sure this is true now. The 220V supply part is true, but you can buy electric kettles at Costco and they boil plenty fast on 120V and everyone who drinks tea has one in my experience.
  - daveoc64 3y ago
    It's sort of a physical impossibility. If your kettle is limited to 1500W, it's always going to be slower than a kettle operating at 3000W.
  - wongarsu 3y ago
    Just checking Amazon, most popular local (230V) kettles are 2200W, with some 2400W options. Checking Costco, US kettles are 1500W. Assuming equal efficiency, the European kettle takes between 62% and 68% the time it takes a US kettle to boil the same water Of course equal efficiency isn't necessarily a given. The insulation and the design of the heating element can have a notable impact on heating time. And for small amounts it likely doesn't matter that much. But assuming equal construction it is still a very notable difference.