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What’s the anti-conspiratorial explanation for that? I can imagine a million different things they’d love to hide, but what would the legitimate, honest/harmles

by ip26 3y ago

What’s the anti-conspiratorial explanation for that? I can imagine a million different things they’d love to hide, but what would the legitimate, honest/harmless reason?

h2odragon 3y ago
Hypothetical: They checked with an agent who is deep / high up in some foreign agency and he said "wasnt us." that agent retired but helped recruit others. those may have retired and helped recruit others. Just that one connection in a file, "we asked agent $name and he said $agency knew nothing" might be justifiable to keep secret if theres a connection to someone still active.
- throw_m239339 3y ago
  > Hypothetical: They checked with an agent who is deep / high up in some foreign agency and he said "wasnt us." that agent retired but helped recruit others. those may have retired and helped recruit others. > Just that one connection in a file, "we asked agent $name and he said $agency knew nothing" might be justifiable to keep secret if theres a connection to someone still active. The names of the agents would be redacted at first place on declassified material.
  - acdha 3y ago
    It’s not just names but also things like places, times, methods of communication, etc. which could be use to narrow things down. If there was a high-level KGB officer whose cooperation hadn’t previously been recognized they don’t want to inspire new investigation into what else that person or their handlers did.
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oconnor663 3y ago
The anti-conspiratorial explanation would be that the government flagrantly broke tons of laws over the years, both in the US and abroad, and that they don't want to publish details about that (even though none of those details actually involve trying to kill Kennedy).
- theultdev 3y ago
  Well that's still a conspiratorial explanation, just a different conspiracy. Though we do know these agencies have broken laws and done some pretty nasty stuff like MKUltra over the years. So they really have no stock and should have been broken up a long time ago. No conspiracy theories needed really.
chrisdhoover 3y ago
Perhaps some of the programs are still running, new generation, same playbook

by ip26 3y ago

What’s the anti-conspiratorial explanation for that? I can imagine a million different things they’d love to hide, but what would the legitimate, honest/harmless reason?

h2odragon 3y ago

Hypothetical: They checked with an agent who is deep / high up in some foreign agency and he said "wasnt us." that agent retired but helped recruit others. those may have retired and helped recruit others. Just that one connection in a file, "we asked agent $name and he said $agency knew nothing" might be justifiable to keep secret if theres a connection to someone still active.

throw_m239339 3y ago
> Hypothetical: They checked with an agent who is deep / high up in some foreign agency and he said "wasnt us." that agent retired but helped recruit others. those may have retired and helped recruit others. > Just that one connection in a file, "we asked agent $name and he said $agency knew nothing" might be justifiable to keep secret if theres a connection to someone still active. The names of the agents would be redacted at first place on declassified material.
- acdha 3y ago
  It’s not just names but also things like places, times, methods of communication, etc. which could be use to narrow things down. If there was a high-level KGB officer whose cooperation hadn’t previously been recognized they don’t want to inspire new investigation into what else that person or their handlers did.
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oconnor663 3y ago

The anti-conspiratorial explanation would be that the government flagrantly broke tons of laws over the years, both in the US and abroad, and that they don't want to publish details about that (even though none of those details actually involve trying to kill Kennedy).

theultdev 3y ago
Well that's still a conspiratorial explanation, just a different conspiracy. Though we do know these agencies have broken laws and done some pretty nasty stuff like MKUltra over the years. So they really have no stock and should have been broken up a long time ago. No conspiracy theories needed really.

chrisdhoover 3y ago

Perhaps some of the programs are still running, new generation, same playbook