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Despite better paper specs, AMD laptops have numerous issues on linux. Gaming aside, if you want a good productivity laptop, I would advise T/X Intel Thinkpads.

deaddodo 3y ago
I use an all-AMD laptop with Linux daily. I haven't noticed any major issues. And, in fact, I have more issues with my Intel/nVidia laptop, especially with regards to power management.
redeeman 3y ago
i have an all-amd laptop, works perfectly with linux
- effie 3y ago
  Also suspend/hibernate/resume? Which brand/model can you recommend?
  - deaddodo 3y ago
    I have the ASUS Zephyrus G14 and it works great. All S-states are supported and function fine. It's Zen3, however. I would assume the Framework 13 or 16 would function equally well and are Zen4-based.
    - effie 3y ago
      That's great. What's the build quality, is it creaky/plasticky like the cheap ones in 2010's, or are they now making it rigid/sturdy like Thinkpads were? (Didn't buy laptop for a looong time.)
      - deaddodo 3y ago
        It's plastic, sure (it's a midrange laptop); but solid and definitely not creaky/bendy. The screen housing is the weakest part. Not weak per se, but not as solid as the body. I would recommend watching some video reviews of it and judging for yourself.
  - opengears 3y ago
    I can recommend you look at ubuntu certified laptops, they all are more likely to work with suspend/hibernate/resume https://ubuntu.com/certified/laptops https://ubuntu.com/certified/laptops Also the notebooks tested at phoronix.com are a good indicator to work (Lenovo Z13 for example). In the case of AMD a lot of work with suspend/resume just recently (August 2023) got patched, so generally with a recent Kernel you should be fine these days. https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-Linux-Fix-SR-Wakeups https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-Linux-Fix-SR-Wakeups
  - redeeman 3y ago
    yes suspend/resume, dont know about suspend to disk, not sure its done it, but i suspend/resume it ALL the time. its an ideapad flex 5. 14ALC05. I simply installed debian, and everything works perfect
opengears 3y ago
Can you let us know which exact issues you are referring to? I am running Linux on AMD (and on Intel) on different Desktops and Notebooks, and the only issues i ever experienced have been with the Lenovo Thinkpad L14 Gen2. They have been fixed with a BIOS update. https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDLaptops/comments/pdpfaq/lenovo_thinkpad_l14_gen2_amd_linux/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDLaptops/comments/pdpfaq/lenovo_t...
- bubblethink 3y ago
  https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/8044 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/8044 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/2354 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/2354 Additionally, fan, thermals, and battery life are all subpar on my 845 g9. The fan is not even exposed via hwmon. Thunderbolt/usb 4 is also a bit iffy. There's no display before the OS boots, which means I need to open the laptop for the disk encryption password. The laptop also gets stuck in weird low frequency states after suspend/resume randomly and unpredictably. The only saving grace for this elitebook is that the wifi is not soldered, so I can upgrade it down the line. Otherwise, Intel Thinkpads are better for almost everything else, including the keyboard. Tangentially related, the mesa-freeworld mess also only exists for AMD laptops. I don't fully understand the legal gymnastics behind why Intel is not affected, but the end user experience is terrible.

deaddodo 3y ago

I use an all-AMD laptop with Linux daily. I haven't noticed any major issues. And, in fact, I have more issues with my Intel/nVidia laptop, especially with regards to power management.

redeeman 3y ago

i have an all-amd laptop, works perfectly with linux

effie 3y ago
Also suspend/hibernate/resume? Which brand/model can you recommend?
- deaddodo 3y ago
  I have the ASUS Zephyrus G14 and it works great. All S-states are supported and function fine. It's Zen3, however. I would assume the Framework 13 or 16 would function equally well and are Zen4-based.
  - effie 3y ago
    That's great. What's the build quality, is it creaky/plasticky like the cheap ones in 2010's, or are they now making it rigid/sturdy like Thinkpads were? (Didn't buy laptop for a looong time.)
    - deaddodo 3y ago
      It's plastic, sure (it's a midrange laptop); but solid and definitely not creaky/bendy. The screen housing is the weakest part. Not weak per se, but not as solid as the body. I would recommend watching some video reviews of it and judging for yourself.
- opengears 3y ago
  I can recommend you look at ubuntu certified laptops, they all are more likely to work with suspend/hibernate/resume https://ubuntu.com/certified/laptops https://ubuntu.com/certified/laptops Also the notebooks tested at phoronix.com are a good indicator to work (Lenovo Z13 for example). In the case of AMD a lot of work with suspend/resume just recently (August 2023) got patched, so generally with a recent Kernel you should be fine these days. https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-Linux-Fix-SR-Wakeups https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-Linux-Fix-SR-Wakeups
- redeeman 3y ago
  yes suspend/resume, dont know about suspend to disk, not sure its done it, but i suspend/resume it ALL the time. its an ideapad flex 5. 14ALC05. I simply installed debian, and everything works perfect

opengears 3y ago

Can you let us know which exact issues you are referring to? I am running Linux on AMD (and on Intel) on different Desktops and Notebooks, and the only issues i ever experienced have been with the Lenovo Thinkpad L14 Gen2. They have been fixed with a BIOS update. https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDLaptops/comments/pdpfaq/lenovo_thinkpad_l14_gen2_amd_linux/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDLaptops/comments/pdpfaq/lenovo_t...

bubblethink 3y ago
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/8044 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/8044 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/2354 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/2354 Additionally, fan, thermals, and battery life are all subpar on my 845 g9. The fan is not even exposed via hwmon. Thunderbolt/usb 4 is also a bit iffy. There's no display before the OS boots, which means I need to open the laptop for the disk encryption password. The laptop also gets stuck in weird low frequency states after suspend/resume randomly and unpredictably. The only saving grace for this elitebook is that the wifi is not soldered, so I can upgrade it down the line. Otherwise, Intel Thinkpads are better for almost everything else, including the keyboard. Tangentially related, the mesa-freeworld mess also only exists for AMD laptops. I don't fully understand the legal gymnastics behind why Intel is not affected, but the end user experience is terrible.