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bullshit, consoles/mobile are bigger markets than PC/Windows PC is just less than 1/3 of the whole picture https://www.data.ai/en/insights/mobile-gaming/2022-

bullshit, consoles/mobile are bigger markets than PC/Windows PC is just less than 1/3 of the whole picture https://www.data.ai/en/insights/mobile-gaming/2022-gaming-spotlight-report/ https://www.data.ai/en/insights/mobile-gaming/2022-gaming-sp...

5e92cb50239222b 3y ago
A bit more than that since Xbox runs Windows too.
- WhereIsTheTruth 3y ago
  July console sales: PS5: 1.2m Switch: 950k Xbox: 370k Xbox accounts for just 17% of total console sales in July Both Switch and PS5 are FreeBSD based If we count the whole period of the current gen of each vendors, it only accounts for 13%, it's not big https://www.vgchartz.com/ https://www.vgchartz.com/
  - rstat1 3y ago
    Actually its only the PS5 that's FreeBSD based. Switch runs a completely proprietary Nintendo OS that borrows a lot from Android.
    - GranPC 3y ago
      It borrows very little from Android - I think it mostly draws some parts from stagefright.
      - rstat1 3y ago
        Also borrows the whole of its compositor "nvnflinger" from Android's "SurfaceFlinger". I'd call that a pretty significant piece.
    - WhereIsTheTruth 3y ago
      A mix of the two "partially Unix-like via certain components which are based on FreeBSD and Android" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch_system_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch_system_softwar...
      - rstat1 3y ago
        from the same article "it is based on a proprietary microkernel" "....Despite popular misconceptions to the contrary, Horizon (the Switch's OS) is not largely derived from FreeBSD code, nor from Android..."
  - squeaky-clean 3y ago
    And what about actual game sales and revenue through things like GamePass. It doesn't help your game if a million people bought a Nintendo Switch if 80% of them only buy Pokémon, Mario Kart and Zelda.
- pjmlp 3y ago
  A special flavour of Windows.
corethree 3y ago
He's probably referring to the Desktop/laptop market. In which case windows controls like 90%.
- WhereIsTheTruth 3y ago
  Title is: "Peredvizhnikov Engine is a fully lock-free game engine written in C++20 " A Game Engine targets various platforms A "video-game" is not something exclusive to desktop/laptop windows market
  - corethree 3y ago
    Right but a toolchain that targets anything else other then a desktop is not straightforward to find or setup. Toy game engines like this are in the majority of cases used on desktop.
kevingadd 3y ago
Got bad news for you about what the console SDKs run on (Also, the consoles don't run Linux)
- p1necone 3y ago
  From what I know: XBOX runs a variant of Windows. PS3/4/5 OSes have all been based on FreeBSD. Apparently Nintendo Switch runs a proprietary kernel, which is interesting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch_system_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch_system_softwar...).
hot_gril 3y ago
Rude way of putting it, but yeah, mobile dwarfs everything.
p1necone 3y ago
I feel like it's a mistake to consider mobile games as being part of the same market as PC/console games. Sure they're both "games" but I don't know that they're competing for the same set of users - either people play one or the other, or the people that do crossover in both markets are probably playing PC/console games at home and mobile games on the bus or train.

5e92cb50239222b 3y ago

A bit more than that since Xbox runs Windows too.

WhereIsTheTruth 3y ago
July console sales: PS5: 1.2m Switch: 950k Xbox: 370k Xbox accounts for just 17% of total console sales in July Both Switch and PS5 are FreeBSD based If we count the whole period of the current gen of each vendors, it only accounts for 13%, it's not big https://www.vgchartz.com/ https://www.vgchartz.com/
- rstat1 3y ago
  Actually its only the PS5 that's FreeBSD based. Switch runs a completely proprietary Nintendo OS that borrows a lot from Android.
  - GranPC 3y ago
    It borrows very little from Android - I think it mostly draws some parts from stagefright.
    - rstat1 3y ago
      Also borrows the whole of its compositor "nvnflinger" from Android's "SurfaceFlinger". I'd call that a pretty significant piece.
  - WhereIsTheTruth 3y ago
    A mix of the two "partially Unix-like via certain components which are based on FreeBSD and Android" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch_system_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch_system_softwar...
    - rstat1 3y ago
      from the same article "it is based on a proprietary microkernel" "....Despite popular misconceptions to the contrary, Horizon (the Switch's OS) is not largely derived from FreeBSD code, nor from Android..."
- squeaky-clean 3y ago
  And what about actual game sales and revenue through things like GamePass. It doesn't help your game if a million people bought a Nintendo Switch if 80% of them only buy Pokémon, Mario Kart and Zelda.
pjmlp 3y ago
A special flavour of Windows.

corethree 3y ago

He's probably referring to the Desktop/laptop market. In which case windows controls like 90%.

WhereIsTheTruth 3y ago
Title is: "Peredvizhnikov Engine is a fully lock-free game engine written in C++20 " A Game Engine targets various platforms A "video-game" is not something exclusive to desktop/laptop windows market
- corethree 3y ago
  Right but a toolchain that targets anything else other then a desktop is not straightforward to find or setup. Toy game engines like this are in the majority of cases used on desktop.

kevingadd 3y ago

Got bad news for you about what the console SDKs run on (Also, the consoles don't run Linux)

p1necone 3y ago
From what I know: XBOX runs a variant of Windows. PS3/4/5 OSes have all been based on FreeBSD. Apparently Nintendo Switch runs a proprietary kernel, which is interesting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch_system_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch_system_softwar...).

hot_gril 3y ago

Rude way of putting it, but yeah, mobile dwarfs everything.

p1necone 3y ago

I feel like it's a mistake to consider mobile games as being part of the same market as PC/console games. Sure they're both "games" but I don't know that they're competing for the same set of users - either people play one or the other, or the people that do crossover in both markets are probably playing PC/console games at home and mobile games on the bus or train.