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It sounds like your assessment of the complexity of a vehicle is specifically tuned to mechanical features of cheap gasoline cars. I would suggest it might be m

by svnt 3y ago

It sounds like your assessment of the complexity of a vehicle is specifically tuned to mechanical features of cheap gasoline cars. I would suggest it might be more accurate to describe this as personality instead of soul. Unsurprisingly electric vehicles, which do not have clutches or transmissions at all, or temperamental engines with inconsistent power curves, will exhibit little signal in the areas you have tuned yourself to perceive. This does not indicate anything about them in a universal way. Your response indicates that you are perhaps incurious about the nuances of driving an EV. Since it sounds like you have invested a lot in sensing personality specifics of gasoline vehicles, this makes sense. Perhaps early EV attempts were muted in their expression of activity personality. Entry level Teslas certainly are not fun to drive in the same way as an old Golf. Have you tried the Ioniq 5?

thsksbd 3y ago
You extrapolated a lot about myself from an explanation of what constitutes a machine's personality. For starters, I wouldn't call the Golf cheap. As to my "old" truck, if had 30k miles when I traded it in. I used "old" as in "previous". As to the Golf, it has <60k miles on it. As far as Im aware, EVs still have steering columns that loosen overtime. EV do have their own characteristics, namely low end torque and insane amount of engine braking. They're also heavy hogs. I am not the poster who said EVs lack a "soul", I just explained what "soul" meant to someone who snickered at the idea of a machine having a "soul"; I introduced the idea that the "personality" is better suited and explained why. I have no bias against heavy, torquey, rear wheel drive sedans - my first car was a crown vic, and I loved it for what it was. As to my interest in EVs, you're right, I don't like them. I think they are unconscionably immoral in their impact on the environment (by taking precious batteries from hybrids that have a greater impact on CO2) and the labor (ie Congo) market. But I am not a tech-dinosaur for in transportation. The manual tranny is long dead, having lost any advantage twenty years ago. I believe that hybrids should be highly promoted, no matter how insipid Toyotas are. Infact, if I'm being completely honest, I dont even like cars. If much rather ride a motorcycle, and I believe that, for environmental reasons, the wider the vehicle the lower its speed limit should be. Cars should be limited to 40 mph by the factory. Trucks to 30, motorbikes 90 :D Toyotas are boring. BMW and Honda (the cars too) were fun. Cars are expensive appliances, and most people are terrible drivers distracted by their phones. /rant

by svnt 3y ago

thsksbd 3y ago

You extrapolated a lot about myself from an explanation of what constitutes a machine's personality. For starters, I wouldn't call the Golf cheap. As to my "old" truck, if had 30k miles when I traded it in. I used "old" as in "previous". As to the Golf, it has <60k miles on it. As far as Im aware, EVs still have steering columns that loosen overtime. EV do have their own characteristics, namely low end torque and insane amount of engine braking. They're also heavy hogs. I am not the poster who said EVs lack a "soul", I just explained what "soul" meant to someone who snickered at the idea of a machine having a "soul"; I introduced the idea that the "personality" is better suited and explained why. I have no bias against heavy, torquey, rear wheel drive sedans - my first car was a crown vic, and I loved it for what it was. As to my interest in EVs, you're right, I don't like them. I think they are unconscionably immoral in their impact on the environment (by taking precious batteries from hybrids that have a greater impact on CO2) and the labor (ie Congo) market. But I am not a tech-dinosaur for in transportation. The manual tranny is long dead, having lost any advantage twenty years ago. I believe that hybrids should be highly promoted, no matter how insipid Toyotas are. Infact, if I'm being completely honest, I dont even like cars. If much rather ride a motorcycle, and I believe that, for environmental reasons, the wider the vehicle the lower its speed limit should be. Cars should be limited to 40 mph by the factory. Trucks to 30, motorbikes 90 :D Toyotas are boring. BMW and Honda (the cars too) were fun. Cars are expensive appliances, and most people are terrible drivers distracted by their phones. /rant