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Sure, there are some people who are not persuadable no matter what. But there are other people who are not crazy but who see stuff like this and have legitimate
by NotYourLawyer 3y ago
Sure, there are some people who are not persuadable no matter what. But there are other people who are not crazy but who see stuff like this and have legitimate doubts.
- afpx 3y agoI’d like to know more about the legitimate doubts. I haven’t heard a solid argument yet. Of the arguments I’ve heard though, the speaker had had low scientific literacy and misunderstandings of the scientific process and the data. They were perturbed by media, mainly. So, I’d like to hear someone serious address the issue.
- pc86 3y agoYou don't need a solid argument to have doubts, you need to hear a solid argument (or more accurately, several of them over some period of time) not to have doubts, and even then you should be checking and doubting your own assumptions. Not everyone is a scientist or an engineer. You don't have to be an idiot to read the above statements and have your main takeaway be "they don't know for sure so they guessed" and it's completely reasonable to still have doubts based on that.
- afpx 3y agoSo, you’re saying the models that have been used and refined over decades have been wildly inaccurate? It’d be interesting to me to see that analysis. Maybe it’ll change my mind.
- pc86 3y agoI didn't say that at all, clearly you're the one operating in bad faith now.
- afpx 3y agoThis is the stuff I'm talking about. I make a deduction, and you respond with a defensive statement and change the subject. I'm just looking for evidence of what you're implicitly claiming. Are the models accurate or not? Anyway, probably just the inherent difficulty of trying to have a conversation online.
- moritz 3y agoSure, we only built gigantonormous infrastructures to measure about everything on every cm of this planet, 10s of thousands of highly qualified experts from all over the world work on this full time and have been saying the same thing for decades, but “there are people” who have “““legitimate doubts”””. Sure.
- NotYourLawyer 3y agoI’m talking specifically about the data from before that infrastructure existed.
- euroderf 3y agoThis is a cop-out.