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Recently I bought a MBP and I'm surprised by how hard to use it is. Printing by both sides? Not supported, you must do it by hand. And some apps print the page

Recently I bought a MBP and I'm surprised by how hard to use it is. Printing by both sides? Not supported, you must do it by hand. And some apps print the pages in reverse order, so you end up having to sort the pages. Use numberpad . as . instead of ,? You have to download an app to use a sane default. Alt+. in terminal? No luck if you aren't using an English keyboard. Run a downloaded app? Run it, accept failure, settings, security, look for blocked app, enable it. It is even worse than Windows Vista. Give some app permissions? Yeah, you must know which permissions, as you cannot search by app... And so on...

matthew_stone 3y ago
It has been possible to print double-sided since at least Lion/2008…
- estebarb 3y ago
  Only if you have a printer that supports it. Otherwise you have to do it by hand https://www.businessinsider.com/guides/tech/how-to-print-double-sided-on-mac https://www.businessinsider.com/guides/tech/how-to-print-dou...
  - yawaramin 3y ago
    If the hardware itself doesn't support it, how would the software?
    - jt2190 3y ago
      The issue is that the printer manufacturer needs to provide a printer driver for MacOS that gives MacOS access to that printer capability. (One could argue that Apple should write the driver, and they might for very popular devices.)
    - estebarb 3y ago
      Windows approach: Print even pages first, ask the user to move the printed pages back to the printer and then print the odd pages later. The result is ready to be read. In Mac you need to print first one side, move the pages manually, print the other side. But you have to remember to add an extra page if the page count is odd, have caution if an app tries to be intelligent and sort the pages in a different way... In Windows all those calculations are done by the system. It is easy! Just print and follow instructions. In Mac is painful.
wredue 3y ago
The blocked app shit really gets me. Installing compilers by hand is always a fight and a half.
- efaref 3y ago
  It always reminds me of the shade Apple threw at Windows Vista. Chickens came home to roost. https://youtu.be/8CwoluNRSSc https://youtu.be/8CwoluNRSSc

matthew_stone 3y ago

It has been possible to print double-sided since at least Lion/2008…

estebarb 3y ago
Only if you have a printer that supports it. Otherwise you have to do it by hand https://www.businessinsider.com/guides/tech/how-to-print-double-sided-on-mac https://www.businessinsider.com/guides/tech/how-to-print-dou...
- yawaramin 3y ago
  If the hardware itself doesn't support it, how would the software?
  - jt2190 3y ago
    The issue is that the printer manufacturer needs to provide a printer driver for MacOS that gives MacOS access to that printer capability. (One could argue that Apple should write the driver, and they might for very popular devices.)
  - estebarb 3y ago
    Windows approach: Print even pages first, ask the user to move the printed pages back to the printer and then print the odd pages later. The result is ready to be read. In Mac you need to print first one side, move the pages manually, print the other side. But you have to remember to add an extra page if the page count is odd, have caution if an app tries to be intelligent and sort the pages in a different way... In Windows all those calculations are done by the system. It is easy! Just print and follow instructions. In Mac is painful.

wredue 3y ago

The blocked app shit really gets me. Installing compilers by hand is always a fight and a half.

efaref 3y ago
It always reminds me of the shade Apple threw at Windows Vista. Chickens came home to roost. https://youtu.be/8CwoluNRSSc https://youtu.be/8CwoluNRSSc