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Could it really? The biggest CO2 producer in the world is China (who emits more CO2 than the USA, EU and India combined), a big chunk of that on building buildi

Could it really? The biggest CO2 producer in the world is China (who emits more CO2 than the USA, EU and India combined), a big chunk of that on building buildings, are they massively overconsuming? I don't see how modern productive agriculture (without which the supportable world population without completely destroying the remaining natural areas of the world goes down to 2-3 billion) would work in a carbon neutral world without using giant solar or wind farms to essentially produce artificial fossil fuels from atmospheric CO2... which sounds like carbon capture tbh.

tsimionescu 3y ago
China is producing the majority of junk the rest of the world consumes. Also, while of course, China needs to be a partner in reducing emissions, but it's also important to remember that they are emitting less per capita then many EU nations, not to mention than the USA. The ideal here would be for the world's richest countries, whose wealth has been built off of emitting the majority of the CO2 already in the atmosphere, to fund massive green energy projects in countries like China and India. There's no reason why China should be building new coal plants to bring electricity to their population while the already electrified EU and USA twiddle their thumbs and import another hundred million tonnes of plastic doodads.
mikewarot 3y ago
>modern productive agriculture Industrial Agriculture is responsible for effectively burning off most of the carbon captured in the soil. Using no-till, regenerative techniques can capture carbon back into the soil, improve water retention, reduce soil temperatures, reduce the need for chemical feedstocks (fertilizer, herbicides, etc.), and simultaneously produce livestock (and their feed), all while producing comparable amounts of crop. The only increased input required is active local management, which requires downscaling production, but as an upside allows diversifying the nature of crops produced.

tsimionescu 3y ago

China is producing the majority of junk the rest of the world consumes. Also, while of course, China needs to be a partner in reducing emissions, but it's also important to remember that they are emitting less per capita then many EU nations, not to mention than the USA. The ideal here would be for the world's richest countries, whose wealth has been built off of emitting the majority of the CO2 already in the atmosphere, to fund massive green energy projects in countries like China and India. There's no reason why China should be building new coal plants to bring electricity to their population while the already electrified EU and USA twiddle their thumbs and import another hundred million tonnes of plastic doodads.

mikewarot 3y ago

>modern productive agriculture Industrial Agriculture is responsible for effectively burning off most of the carbon captured in the soil. Using no-till, regenerative techniques can capture carbon back into the soil, improve water retention, reduce soil temperatures, reduce the need for chemical feedstocks (fertilizer, herbicides, etc.), and simultaneously produce livestock (and their feed), all while producing comparable amounts of crop. The only increased input required is active local management, which requires downscaling production, but as an upside allows diversifying the nature of crops produced.