I didn't say they are lying. But it's very easy to cherry pick and arrange the looks of things. The kind of stuff you avoid when you are actually seeking truth.

I didn't say they are lying. But it's very easy to cherry pick and arrange the looks of things. The kind of stuff you avoid when you are actually seeking truth. Look, I'm not going to convince you at this point. You are also absolutely not going to convince me that this page should be trusted. Let me just suggest you that if you are going to take marketing material at face value, be my guest, but I suspect you are in for some fun rides. And good luck convincing people with (arguments coming from) marketing material too. I suspect this won't work with many people seeking more robust stuff. See my other comment on actual elements that show that Apple is not that geared toward being environmentally friendly. These elements need to be addressed before I start changing my mind on this.