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Building high speed rail is complicated because of land rights, the US is not China where the government can just order people off large swathes of land as need

Building high speed rail is complicated because of land rights, the US is not China where the government can just order people off large swathes of land as needed. Lithium mining is more like the shale oil boom, when the US went from an net importer to a net exporter of fossil fuels, environmental damage be damned. When it's for private industry's profit, the US is quite competent at eliminating any oversight of environmental and societal concerns.

megaman821 3y ago
Shouldn't we be seeing wide-scale, obvious signs of environment destruction consider how many barrels a day the US produces? Maybe it is not covered well by the news, but do you have any sources for major environmental destruction?
- nickserv 3y ago
  https://news.stanford.edu/2016/03/29/pavillion-fracking-water-032916/ https://news.stanford.edu/2016/03/29/pavillion-fracking-wate... https://www.consumerreports.org/water-contamination/how-fracking-has-contaminated-drinking-water-a1256135490/ https://www.consumerreports.org/water-contamination/how-frac... https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/fracking-water-its-just-so-hard-to-clean https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/frack... https://www.propublica.org/article/scientific-study-links-flammable-drinking-water-to-fracking https://www.propublica.org/article/scientific-study-links-fl... https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/editorials/fracking-oil-gas-pennsylvania-health-cancer-asthma-ban-20230907.html https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/editorials/fracking-oil-gas... Etc etc
  - megaman821 3y ago
    I did not say or believe that fracking causes no harm to the environment, just at the scale fracking is done at there would be more than minor incidents, there would be mass devastation wherever fracking was taking place. Most of these issues are fracking be done too close to underground water reservoirs.
midoridensha 3y ago
>Building high speed rail is complicated because of land rights, the US is not China where the government can just order people off large swathes of land as needed. Japan is not China either, yet Japan has little trouble building new bullet trains. We're building a new maglev train right now between Tokyo and Nagoya which should be finished before the decade is over, and 90% of the route is underground. The US just doesn't really want to build high speed rail.

megaman821 3y ago

Shouldn't we be seeing wide-scale, obvious signs of environment destruction consider how many barrels a day the US produces? Maybe it is not covered well by the news, but do you have any sources for major environmental destruction?

nickserv 3y ago
https://news.stanford.edu/2016/03/29/pavillion-fracking-water-032916/ https://news.stanford.edu/2016/03/29/pavillion-fracking-wate... https://www.consumerreports.org/water-contamination/how-fracking-has-contaminated-drinking-water-a1256135490/ https://www.consumerreports.org/water-contamination/how-frac... https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/fracking-water-its-just-so-hard-to-clean https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/frack... https://www.propublica.org/article/scientific-study-links-flammable-drinking-water-to-fracking https://www.propublica.org/article/scientific-study-links-fl... https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/editorials/fracking-oil-gas-pennsylvania-health-cancer-asthma-ban-20230907.html https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/editorials/fracking-oil-gas... Etc etc
- megaman821 3y ago
  I did not say or believe that fracking causes no harm to the environment, just at the scale fracking is done at there would be more than minor incidents, there would be mass devastation wherever fracking was taking place. Most of these issues are fracking be done too close to underground water reservoirs.

midoridensha 3y ago

>Building high speed rail is complicated because of land rights, the US is not China where the government can just order people off large swathes of land as needed. Japan is not China either, yet Japan has little trouble building new bullet trains. We're building a new maglev train right now between Tokyo and Nagoya which should be finished before the decade is over, and 90% of the route is underground. The US just doesn't really want to build high speed rail.