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Russian Su-34 Strike-Fighter Seen Covered in Tires

10 points by clouddrover 3y ago

drt5b7j 3y ago
It's cartoonist how incompetent the Russian military is. If you'd told me 2 years ago never would I have believed.
- moralestapia 3y ago
  And yet, a significant chunk of Ukraine is under their control. So, send more billions maybe? :^)
  - _kbh_ 3y ago
    That portion of land wasn’t won for free they lost a lot of troops, vehicles and aircraft and even a handful of boats to do that. They are also losing it slowly piece by piece.
    - moralestapia 3y ago
      >That portion of land wasn’t won for free Sure, but it's war, right? Why would someone assume it was going to be easy/free?
      - clouddrover 3y ago
        That is precisely the assumption Putin made when he launched his invasion of Ukraine. He was wrong.
        moralestapia 3y ago
        I don't really think he assumed that, only somebody without gray matter would think that war comes without cost. >He was wrong. And yet, he got 18% of Ukraine's land. Doesn't sound like a loss ...
        clouddrover 3y ago
        > I don't really think he assumed that Sure. And is that why they expected a quick victory, only to find their convoy going nowhere and no victory in sight: https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-invasion-ukraine-intelligence-putin/31748594.html https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-invasion-ukraine-intelligence... https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-intelligence-says-russian-advance-kyiv-has-made-little-progress-2022-03-03/ https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-intelligence-says-russia... https://ig.ft.com/russias-war-in-ukraine-mapped/ https://ig.ft.com/russias-war-in-ukraine-mapped/ And is that why Russian soldiers turned up with parade uniforms they never got to wear: https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-said-found-russian-parade-uniforms-left-behind-in-kyiv-2022-4?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-said-found-russian-p... And is that why Russia turned to recruiting prisoners to use as cannon fodder: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-prisoners.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/13/world/europe/ukraine-russ... And is that why they enjoyed Prigozhin's rebellion: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/23/europe/wagner-prigozhin-criminal-case-explainer-intl/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/23/europe/wagner-prigozhin-c... And is that why Russian soldiers are still having a nice time a year and a half in, stuck in a pointless war of choice which has achieved nothing good for anyone: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-intercepts/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-... > Doesn't sound like a loss You don't seem to be across any of this.
  - drt5b7j 3y ago
    Exactly, if you'd told me 2 years ago that after 2 years the best they did is "a significant chunk of Ukraine" I wouldve thought you're crazy.
sillywalk 3y ago
FTA: "A covering of tires could well be calculated to break up the infrared signature of these aircraft, to confuse cruise missiles using image matching for targeting. This technique is also frequently referred to as DSMAC (Digital Scene Matching Area Correlator) or ATR (Automated Target Recognition) when used in cruise missiles. As we have previously discussed, using DSMAC/ATR would provide land attack versions of Ukraine’s homegrown Neptune missiles with a significant advantage, making them largely immune to electronic warfare jamming. At the same time, their approach to the target would not involve any telltale radio-frequency emissions, thanks to the passive nature of the targeting."

10 points by clouddrover 3y ago

drt5b7j 3y ago

It's cartoonist how incompetent the Russian military is. If you'd told me 2 years ago never would I have believed.

moralestapia 3y ago
And yet, a significant chunk of Ukraine is under their control. So, send more billions maybe? :^)
- _kbh_ 3y ago
  That portion of land wasn’t won for free they lost a lot of troops, vehicles and aircraft and even a handful of boats to do that. They are also losing it slowly piece by piece.
  - moralestapia 3y ago
    >That portion of land wasn’t won for free Sure, but it's war, right? Why would someone assume it was going to be easy/free?
    - clouddrover 3y ago
      That is precisely the assumption Putin made when he launched his invasion of Ukraine. He was wrong.
      - moralestapia 3y ago
        I don't really think he assumed that, only somebody without gray matter would think that war comes without cost. >He was wrong. And yet, he got 18% of Ukraine's land. Doesn't sound like a loss ...
        clouddrover 3y ago
        > I don't really think he assumed that Sure. And is that why they expected a quick victory, only to find their convoy going nowhere and no victory in sight: https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-invasion-ukraine-intelligence-putin/31748594.html https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-invasion-ukraine-intelligence... https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-intelligence-says-russian-advance-kyiv-has-made-little-progress-2022-03-03/ https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-intelligence-says-russia... https://ig.ft.com/russias-war-in-ukraine-mapped/ https://ig.ft.com/russias-war-in-ukraine-mapped/ And is that why Russian soldiers turned up with parade uniforms they never got to wear: https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-said-found-russian-parade-uniforms-left-behind-in-kyiv-2022-4?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-said-found-russian-p... And is that why Russia turned to recruiting prisoners to use as cannon fodder: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-prisoners.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/13/world/europe/ukraine-russ... And is that why they enjoyed Prigozhin's rebellion: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/23/europe/wagner-prigozhin-criminal-case-explainer-intl/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/23/europe/wagner-prigozhin-c... And is that why Russian soldiers are still having a nice time a year and a half in, stuck in a pointless war of choice which has achieved nothing good for anyone: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-intercepts/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-... > Doesn't sound like a loss You don't seem to be across any of this.
- drt5b7j 3y ago
  Exactly, if you'd told me 2 years ago that after 2 years the best they did is "a significant chunk of Ukraine" I wouldve thought you're crazy.

sillywalk 3y ago

FTA: "A covering of tires could well be calculated to break up the infrared signature of these aircraft, to confuse cruise missiles using image matching for targeting. This technique is also frequently referred to as DSMAC (Digital Scene Matching Area Correlator) or ATR (Automated Target Recognition) when used in cruise missiles. As we have previously discussed, using DSMAC/ATR would provide land attack versions of Ukraine’s homegrown Neptune missiles with a significant advantage, making them largely immune to electronic warfare jamming. At the same time, their approach to the target would not involve any telltale radio-frequency emissions, thanks to the passive nature of the targeting."