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This seems a lot more like how IIS works, unless I'm missing something? As an aside: it's always curious to see how the programming world has splintered into c

This seems a lot more like how IIS works, unless I'm missing something? As an aside: it's always curious to see how the programming world has splintered into cliques that no longer hang out together. NGINX Unit is a "Universal" web server without support for C++, Rust, or ASP.NET! But PERL is supported, like the 1990s Linux cgi-bin world never went away.

crvdgc 3y ago
Don't know about ASP.NET, but one of the supported languages is assembly, so I'd presume C++ and Rust can easily add a wrapper around that. > Binary-compiled languages in general: using the embedded libunit library. From https://unit.nginx.org/keyfeatures/#supported-app-languages https://unit.nginx.org/keyfeatures/#supported-app-languages
- tyingq 3y ago
  Reads like it's not real straightforward or well documented for rust: https://github.com/nginx/unit/issues/738 https://github.com/nginx/unit/issues/738
- throwaway2037 3y ago
  Thank you to link to that page. It is very funny. I highly recommend that others read it. Choice quote: The benefits of using the assembly language for your web apps are immense: You get all the bragging rights: coding in assembly while everyone is working safe and secure within the confines of their precious sandboxed languages is like doing a perfect triple somersault without safety mats. Next: I recommend multi-threaded assembly code with self-modifying code and lock free data structures!
coldtea 3y ago
In Linux where this is primarily expected to be used ASP.NET is extremely rare, as is C++ for web stuff, and Rust has a vanishingly small web presence still. Lots of people use Perl still though, if not for anything else, for legacy stuff. So might as well ask why it doesn't support Delphi.
- mst 3y ago
  And PSGI is actually really rather good (for sync stuff, I dislike the way it handles async/websockets and would tend to use Mojolicious for that) and generally used to deploy OO MVC style apps. The Perl ecosystem has come a long way from CGI scripts just like everybody else has.
- jddj 3y ago
  Do you have data for your asp.net Linux claim? Feels anachronistic.
  - pseudosavant 3y ago
    This is anecdata, but my experience with modern ASP.NET teams these days is that while production may still be running Windows, the dev teams are a mix of Mac, Windows, and Linux/WSL. The allure of the M2 MBP is too great when the Windows option is an expensive but otherwise forgettable Dell corporate laptop.
- ComputerGuru 3y ago
  I can’t say I know the percentage of Linux servers running ASP.NET Core but the percentage of ASP.NET Core apps running on Linux is no longer negligible. Bing runs it on Linux, iirc. This isn’t the dark days of .NET Framework anymore.
  - dcgudeman 3y ago
    How do you know that?
- Valord 3y ago
  My previous company ran quite a bit through asp.net running in Linux docker containers in k8s etc. I hardly consider it extremely rare.
mbreese 3y ago
And Go apps require recompiling them to use their version of the http. ListenAndServe function. I’m not sure if this counts either… https://unit.nginx.org/configuration/#updating-go-apps https://unit.nginx.org/configuration/#updating-go-apps
- sethammons 3y ago
  And requires you to enable CGO, which I avoid at all costs if I can

crvdgc 3y ago

Don't know about ASP.NET, but one of the supported languages is assembly, so I'd presume C++ and Rust can easily add a wrapper around that. > Binary-compiled languages in general: using the embedded libunit library. From https://unit.nginx.org/keyfeatures/#supported-app-languages https://unit.nginx.org/keyfeatures/#supported-app-languages

tyingq 3y ago
Reads like it's not real straightforward or well documented for rust: https://github.com/nginx/unit/issues/738 https://github.com/nginx/unit/issues/738
throwaway2037 3y ago
Thank you to link to that page. It is very funny. I highly recommend that others read it. Choice quote: The benefits of using the assembly language for your web apps are immense: You get all the bragging rights: coding in assembly while everyone is working safe and secure within the confines of their precious sandboxed languages is like doing a perfect triple somersault without safety mats. Next: I recommend multi-threaded assembly code with self-modifying code and lock free data structures!

coldtea 3y ago

In Linux where this is primarily expected to be used ASP.NET is extremely rare, as is C++ for web stuff, and Rust has a vanishingly small web presence still. Lots of people use Perl still though, if not for anything else, for legacy stuff. So might as well ask why it doesn't support Delphi.

mst 3y ago
And PSGI is actually really rather good (for sync stuff, I dislike the way it handles async/websockets and would tend to use Mojolicious for that) and generally used to deploy OO MVC style apps. The Perl ecosystem has come a long way from CGI scripts just like everybody else has.
jddj 3y ago
Do you have data for your asp.net Linux claim? Feels anachronistic.
- pseudosavant 3y ago
  This is anecdata, but my experience with modern ASP.NET teams these days is that while production may still be running Windows, the dev teams are a mix of Mac, Windows, and Linux/WSL. The allure of the M2 MBP is too great when the Windows option is an expensive but otherwise forgettable Dell corporate laptop.
ComputerGuru 3y ago
I can’t say I know the percentage of Linux servers running ASP.NET Core but the percentage of ASP.NET Core apps running on Linux is no longer negligible. Bing runs it on Linux, iirc. This isn’t the dark days of .NET Framework anymore.
- dcgudeman 3y ago
  How do you know that?
Valord 3y ago
My previous company ran quite a bit through asp.net running in Linux docker containers in k8s etc. I hardly consider it extremely rare.

mbreese 3y ago

And Go apps require recompiling them to use their version of the http. ListenAndServe function. I’m not sure if this counts either… https://unit.nginx.org/configuration/#updating-go-apps https://unit.nginx.org/configuration/#updating-go-apps

sethammons 3y ago
And requires you to enable CGO, which I avoid at all costs if I can