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Well, better to panic and run in 1000 directions, none of which going away from the planet that is so far our only habitat? It will work out one way or another.

Well, better to panic and run in 1000 directions, none of which going away from the planet that is so far our only habitat? It will work out one way or another. And either many-worlds is true, and some of them will carry on human life, or it’s not, I‘m wrong and all these examples were just lucky accidents. In the second option we‘re likely screwed either way, because the number of ways that humanity can kill itself is growing by the decade, and one of these will trigger sooner or later.

hju22_-3 3y ago
This is such a... strange way to essential just ignore the problem and hope it goes away. Like a student deciding not to study, because why would that help. Either he fails or another in a—essentially—another world does or doesn't. Problem solved. This kind of attitude is problematic regardless of the topic though. Because whether it works out or not isn't dependent on you, because what you're describing is just noping out of the situation and ignoring it. And, for those who genuinely do care, one way or the other. That take the many hours upon hours to write out good whitepapers on the topic, how is that panicking exactly? Sure, there is a lot of horror media, purposefully misleading information, and doomer attitudes thrown around from either side of the argument, and some of those average (statistically speaking) folk can probably be described as panicking. And there's also companies doing and implementing things only for the PR, or to remove heat from themselves, or preemt such things, and what have you. But I still wouldn't go so far as to write the entire topic off because some people are panicky and a lot of companies have financial incentives to earn more regardless of morality. I do agree that, on the current course, I can't see humanity lasting very long, so to speak... that is, if nothing is done about it. Sure, perhaps nothing will work out. Perhaps everything will fix itself if one ignores the problem. Perhaps the fictional student ends up passing either way. Perhaps it won't. But is that reason enough to simply brush our hands of it? To just let it happen? Sitting back and doing nothing won't make things better either. Doing something has—at least—the potential for change, whether good or bad.
- m_mueller 3y ago
  I never said to do nothing. I just don’t see value in worrying about things out of our control. I do my best to keep my family’s footprint low (and already live on a country with comparatively low footprint). But most of this whole thing is at best in the hands of corrupt politicians and at worst completely rudderless.

hju22_-3 3y ago

This is such a... strange way to essential just ignore the problem and hope it goes away. Like a student deciding not to study, because why would that help. Either he fails or another in a—essentially—another world does or doesn't. Problem solved. This kind of attitude is problematic regardless of the topic though. Because whether it works out or not isn't dependent on you, because what you're describing is just noping out of the situation and ignoring it. And, for those who genuinely do care, one way or the other. That take the many hours upon hours to write out good whitepapers on the topic, how is that panicking exactly? Sure, there is a lot of horror media, purposefully misleading information, and doomer attitudes thrown around from either side of the argument, and some of those average (statistically speaking) folk can probably be described as panicking. And there's also companies doing and implementing things only for the PR, or to remove heat from themselves, or preemt such things, and what have you. But I still wouldn't go so far as to write the entire topic off because some people are panicky and a lot of companies have financial incentives to earn more regardless of morality. I do agree that, on the current course, I can't see humanity lasting very long, so to speak... that is, if nothing is done about it. Sure, perhaps nothing will work out. Perhaps everything will fix itself if one ignores the problem. Perhaps the fictional student ends up passing either way. Perhaps it won't. But is that reason enough to simply brush our hands of it? To just let it happen? Sitting back and doing nothing won't make things better either. Doing something has—at least—the potential for change, whether good or bad.

m_mueller 3y ago
I never said to do nothing. I just don’t see value in worrying about things out of our control. I do my best to keep my family’s footprint low (and already live on a country with comparatively low footprint). But most of this whole thing is at best in the hands of corrupt politicians and at worst completely rudderless.