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you think 25 years is enough to store CO2 in? even 1000 years is not enough since we will need to entomb all available wood. But that is all stupid anyway becau
by blkhawk 3y ago
you think 25 years is enough to store CO2 in? even 1000 years is not enough since we will need to entomb all available wood. But that is all stupid anyway because of this:
To start reversing the CO2 emission we would need as many trees it takes to take up the current CO2 emissions and then a bit more.
From what I found you can estimate every m³ (a bit less than 1 American fridge) of Wood stores 1 ton of CO2. Say each hectare of Forest with fast growing trees produces ~ 10m³ per year (more when they are cut down but they need to grow over a decade+. So if they take 10 years that is 100m³ wood yield at the end).
Humanity produced by some estimates 37 billion tons of CO2 in 2020. That means you need 3.7 billion hectare of forest.
The USA has a land area of 157.7 million hectare. So you need an area of 23 times the LAND area of the United States of America just for trees just to HALT CO² at today's level.
How well are fast growing trees growing in the Arizona desert btw?
- WalterBright 3y agoThings grow very well in the Arizona desert when they're watered. Lots of sunlight! You're right that trees cannot be 100% of the solution. But they can be a big part of it. > you think 25 years is enough to store CO2 in? It's starting to rot at 25 years, lying in the rain and mud and beetles. There are logs much much older than that lying around the local woods. There are stumps over a century old. My house is 25 years old, and the wood structure that has been kept dry has no rot at all. None. Zero. Simply by keeping it dry.
- blkhawk 3y agoMy point is that 25, 100, or 5000 years is not a long time in this case. The also issue with wood is not that it "cannot be part of the solution". The issue is that it is part of green-washing "solutions" that always calm people down for a bit because something is being done. then nothing else happens for 10 years. Also I live in a house made from wood, stone, straw and dirt. Depending on how you count its about 400 years old. before that it burned to the ground once. And the Wooden parts aren't actually that old they have been replaced as recently as 100 years ago. the inside has been redone in the 80ies tho and a lot of the wood got taken out. Its silly to argue for wood as a storage medium even on the basis of that.
- WalterBright 3y agoIt doesn't need to last 5000 years. It just has to last until we transition to other power sources, of which there are many.
- strait 3y ago> It's starting to rot at 25 years, lying in the rain and mud and beetles. There are logs much much older than that lying around the local woods. There are stumps over a century old. Limited to rot resistant trees, such as cedars. Even then, not shielded from the rain for 25 years and not seeing much rot would be amazing.
- WalterBright 3y agoI can send you a photo if you like.