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Hero. There are very, very few things more despicable than cheating in sport. Any victory against that vile rot is to be highly commended.

happytiger 3y ago
Here here! How vile does one need to be to betray fair play? When this trust is broken it completely dismisses the values of hard work and playing by the rules. But are these things still valued by everyday people?
NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
> very few things more despicable than cheating in sport. Why though? It's practically a victimless crime. Sport is, by definition, recreation and entertainment. If the perpetrators of sport make better entertainment via corruption of the rules or laws, then who does it hurt, really? Certainly not the spectators or the bottom line of ticket sales. I can honestly think of a lot of crimes and sins more despicable than this. I mean truly, if you need help listing or recognizing them as heinous, I don't know what to say for you.
- wly_cdgr 3y ago
  You seem to seriously misunderstand the nature and significance of sport. Sport is one of the most sacred, meaningful, and universal rites we have as a species. It is a worshipful and passionate celebration of all our greatest virtues: courage, selflessness, sacrifice, resilience, humility, elegance, grace, and so many more. Anything that compromises the integrity of such a celebration could hardly be further from a "victimless crime"; it gravely injures us all.
  - FLT8 3y ago
    Granted, sport may at it's best exhibit some of those virtues, but it also encourages tribalism, the linking of one's identity and mental state to essentially a die roll of weekly fixture results, encourages heroicising people who while good at sport often fail to live up to hero status in other aspects of their lives, and, at least where I live, is inexorably tied through corporate deals and sponsorships with vices such as gambling and drinking. If we're being intellectually honest, it's not all sunshine and roses.
onetokeoverthe 3y ago
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southernplaces7 3y ago
Really? On a scale of despicable "things" that would presumably include activities such as: genocide, ethnic cleansing, serial murder, mass rape, child porn, slavery, kidnapping, mass murder, terrorism, war profiteering, deliberate mass environmental contamination, pension fund fraud, etc and etc, along with all their related activities and variants? I'd place cheating on sport pretty low along any broad scale of despicable human activities.

happytiger 3y ago

Here here! How vile does one need to be to betray fair play? When this trust is broken it completely dismisses the values of hard work and playing by the rules. But are these things still valued by everyday people?

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago

> very few things more despicable than cheating in sport. Why though? It's practically a victimless crime. Sport is, by definition, recreation and entertainment. If the perpetrators of sport make better entertainment via corruption of the rules or laws, then who does it hurt, really? Certainly not the spectators or the bottom line of ticket sales. I can honestly think of a lot of crimes and sins more despicable than this. I mean truly, if you need help listing or recognizing them as heinous, I don't know what to say for you.

wly_cdgr 3y ago
You seem to seriously misunderstand the nature and significance of sport. Sport is one of the most sacred, meaningful, and universal rites we have as a species. It is a worshipful and passionate celebration of all our greatest virtues: courage, selflessness, sacrifice, resilience, humility, elegance, grace, and so many more. Anything that compromises the integrity of such a celebration could hardly be further from a "victimless crime"; it gravely injures us all.
- FLT8 3y ago
  Granted, sport may at it's best exhibit some of those virtues, but it also encourages tribalism, the linking of one's identity and mental state to essentially a die roll of weekly fixture results, encourages heroicising people who while good at sport often fail to live up to hero status in other aspects of their lives, and, at least where I live, is inexorably tied through corporate deals and sponsorships with vices such as gambling and drinking. If we're being intellectually honest, it's not all sunshine and roses.

onetokeoverthe 3y ago

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southernplaces7 3y ago

Really? On a scale of despicable "things" that would presumably include activities such as: genocide, ethnic cleansing, serial murder, mass rape, child porn, slavery, kidnapping, mass murder, terrorism, war profiteering, deliberate mass environmental contamination, pension fund fraud, etc and etc, along with all their related activities and variants? I'd place cheating on sport pretty low along any broad scale of despicable human activities.