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I just had COVID for the first time. It's been two weeks and I still feel like total garbage. I'm thoroughly done being nice and pretending to be open minded ab

I just had COVID for the first time. It's been two weeks and I still feel like total garbage. I'm thoroughly done being nice and pretending to be open minded about conspiracy thought at this point. If people want to "just ask questions" they need to be prepared for answers, which exist and are easy to find. The whole time I've been sick I've had to smile and nod at people trying to justify their dumb decisions two years ago. "Your body has an immune system..." and "are they just calling all respiratory infections COVID now?" is the kind of nonsense I don't want to hear when I can barely get out of bed. It's trivially easy to find evidence in data that cases are trending up. Positivity rate is up and hospitalizations are up where I live (LA county). http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/media/Coronavirus/data/#graph-positivity http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/media/Coronavirus/data/#gra... http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/media/Coronavirus/data/#graph-hospitalized http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/media/Coronavirus/data/#gra... This booster has been in development and testing for months. Any correlation between uptick in cases and booster availability is obviously just good planning. It's almost COVID/flu season and vaccine makers try to have a booster/shot ready in time for the predominant variant. Everybody (at least pretty much everybody) should get a booster when it's available. COVID is awful and you don't want to get it. Feel free to "make your own choices" and "read the evidence". But if you want to go that route, be prepared to accept the answer that getting a vaccine is statistically the right choice for 99%+ of people.

TechBro8615 3y ago
> I just had COVID for the first time. It's been two weeks and I still feel like total garbage. I'm confused how you open your comment with this statement, as if to express regret that you didn't get the vaccine and that's why you suffered from the symptoms of Covid. But from the rest of your comment, you don't sound like someone who's avoided Covid vaccines. In fact you go onto promote them. So I feel it's worth asking: are you vaccinated against Covid? How many times have you been boosted? And if the answer to those questions is "yes" and "more than zero," then what is your basis for scolding others into "getting a vaccine?" I mean, did it work for you, or did you still get Covid and suffer from its symptoms? For full disclosure, wary as I am of karmic retribution (from the universe, not HN users) for admitting it: I've not been vaccinated, I've not been boosted, and as far as I know I've not had Covid. I did have a sore throat and runny nose on a trip to NYC a few weeks ago, but if that was Covid, I hardly see the urgency to get vaccinated against it, and in fact I'm glad that I suffered from such a minor infirmity since it would mean I'm now immune to potentially deadlier variants, and likely to a degree more than anyone who's been vaccinated against earlier variants (research has consistently shown natural immunity from infection to be longer-lasting and more efficacious against a wider range of unknown variants than any vaccine).
- rzimmerman 3y ago
  I was vaccinated in 2020, had a booster in 2021, and the bivalent booster in 2022. There's no way to know with a sample size of one how well I personally was protected. I was definitely exposed several times to COVID and did not catch it until now. I'm disappointed that the new booster isn't available for me yet. I was a few weeks away and there's a good chance it would have prevented this infection, or lessened the severity. It's telling how everyone I talk to that's avoided vaccines brings it up. They're nervous about getting COVID, they're nervous about having being wrong in the past. Several people have pulled the same "See? The vaccines don't work!" line. Clearly they work. Even 20% efficacy at preventing infection is valuable. Reducing severity is clearly valuable. Reducing spread is a societal obligation, even if the efficacy wanes. "I had a runny nose so I don't need a vaccine" is a hypothesis. Poll an expert on the matter (like a doctor) and see what they recommend. Ask them why, if you're serious.
  - TechBro8615 3y ago
    You're attributing nervousness to me when it does not exist. I'm pretty sure we both have as much desire to be right as the other. The difference is, I'm not telling you not to get vaccinated. You do what you want, I do what I want, and neither of us rubs it in the face of the other if we turn out to get the short end of the stick. That's the moral basis I've been operating on throughout this whole ordeal, and so far it's worked fine.
    - kanbara 3y ago
      it’s not moral to “do what i want” when that involves causing risk and harm to others. vaccination is a numbers game, and you choosing not to be vaxxed is a choice to be sure.
      - TechBro8615 3y ago
        That would make sense if the vaccinations had any impact on transmission rate.
      - 3y ago
anon291 3y ago
I would recommend looking at your health Ive had COVID several times and while I won't say it's pleasant, it's like 3 days of bad cold followed by a swift recovery. My seventy year old parents have had similar trajectories. If it's taking weeks, I'd be concerned about my overall health and immune system
- bsder 3y ago
  Different people react differently. Just like any other virus (see: smallpox and polio). We saw bad-ass MMA fighters absolutely pounded by Covid. We saw pasty, wimpy Hollywood actors get through Covid with barely a sniffle. The problem is that you don't know which Covid group you are in until after you get infected with it. This is why we vaccinate.

TechBro8615 3y ago

> I just had COVID for the first time. It's been two weeks and I still feel like total garbage. I'm confused how you open your comment with this statement, as if to express regret that you didn't get the vaccine and that's why you suffered from the symptoms of Covid. But from the rest of your comment, you don't sound like someone who's avoided Covid vaccines. In fact you go onto promote them. So I feel it's worth asking: are you vaccinated against Covid? How many times have you been boosted? And if the answer to those questions is "yes" and "more than zero," then what is your basis for scolding others into "getting a vaccine?" I mean, did it work for you, or did you still get Covid and suffer from its symptoms? For full disclosure, wary as I am of karmic retribution (from the universe, not HN users) for admitting it: I've not been vaccinated, I've not been boosted, and as far as I know I've not had Covid. I did have a sore throat and runny nose on a trip to NYC a few weeks ago, but if that was Covid, I hardly see the urgency to get vaccinated against it, and in fact I'm glad that I suffered from such a minor infirmity since it would mean I'm now immune to potentially deadlier variants, and likely to a degree more than anyone who's been vaccinated against earlier variants (research has consistently shown natural immunity from infection to be longer-lasting and more efficacious against a wider range of unknown variants than any vaccine).

rzimmerman 3y ago
I was vaccinated in 2020, had a booster in 2021, and the bivalent booster in 2022. There's no way to know with a sample size of one how well I personally was protected. I was definitely exposed several times to COVID and did not catch it until now. I'm disappointed that the new booster isn't available for me yet. I was a few weeks away and there's a good chance it would have prevented this infection, or lessened the severity. It's telling how everyone I talk to that's avoided vaccines brings it up. They're nervous about getting COVID, they're nervous about having being wrong in the past. Several people have pulled the same "See? The vaccines don't work!" line. Clearly they work. Even 20% efficacy at preventing infection is valuable. Reducing severity is clearly valuable. Reducing spread is a societal obligation, even if the efficacy wanes. "I had a runny nose so I don't need a vaccine" is a hypothesis. Poll an expert on the matter (like a doctor) and see what they recommend. Ask them why, if you're serious.
- TechBro8615 3y ago
  You're attributing nervousness to me when it does not exist. I'm pretty sure we both have as much desire to be right as the other. The difference is, I'm not telling you not to get vaccinated. You do what you want, I do what I want, and neither of us rubs it in the face of the other if we turn out to get the short end of the stick. That's the moral basis I've been operating on throughout this whole ordeal, and so far it's worked fine.
  - kanbara 3y ago
    it’s not moral to “do what i want” when that involves causing risk and harm to others. vaccination is a numbers game, and you choosing not to be vaxxed is a choice to be sure.
    - TechBro8615 3y ago
      That would make sense if the vaccinations had any impact on transmission rate.
    - 3y ago

anon291 3y ago

I would recommend looking at your health Ive had COVID several times and while I won't say it's pleasant, it's like 3 days of bad cold followed by a swift recovery. My seventy year old parents have had similar trajectories. If it's taking weeks, I'd be concerned about my overall health and immune system

bsder 3y ago
Different people react differently. Just like any other virus (see: smallpox and polio). We saw bad-ass MMA fighters absolutely pounded by Covid. We saw pasty, wimpy Hollywood actors get through Covid with barely a sniffle. The problem is that you don't know which Covid group you are in until after you get infected with it. This is why we vaccinate.