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http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/karnataka/article4475.ece http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/karnataka/article4475.ec... Post that announcement in 2009, ne

by asto 15y ago

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/karnataka/article4475.ece http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/karnataka/article4475.ec... Post that announcement in 2009, new autos have had only new meters. If the notification is issued the day after a new auto is bought, it will be a loss of money to the auto owner. The notification was issued in Jan this year if I'm not wrong and it is now compulsory to have digital meters. The reason why it took from 2009-12 was because of auto-drivers resisting the change. Of course, all this because a majority of auto drivers are assholes whose only aim in life is to fleece passengers. It amazes me that of all people, you are bringing up auto-drivers as an example of technological change.

kamaal 15y ago
Auto drivers are no bigger assholes than us software engineers, to be really telling frankly. If a software engineer can hop jobs every year without adding even 6 months of value to a company and he submits false rent receipts to save taxes(Which is stealing or fleecing as your describe the national treasury by the way)or when he reads online forums in the day time instead of working(which is fleecing the company by the way) etc. We should not point fingers at other occupations and pass sweeping generalizations on other people. This is the classic Indian mentality. We expect the poor to remain poor. An Auto driver is not supposed to earn well. The son of a cab driver like me is not supposed to be an engineer and earning well. And if we work hard and succeed we are assumed to be crossing our bounds. And the traditional Indian crowd can't stand this. But my point stands true right. The digital meters sell because there is a demand, and there is a value to it. Business demands value.
- pm90 15y ago
  We should not point fingers at other occupations and pass sweeping generalizations on other people. You ask him to refrain from making generalizations, but YOU are the one that is making a lot of them. Nobody said that they don't want you to succeed because you are the son of a taxi driver, there was no need to even mention it in an anonymous online forum. It is YOU who is trying to get sympathy from this fact. Please try to understand what you are doing. I must say that I agree with asto; you have not countered his assertions, skirted but not tackled his points. It is an undeniable fact that piracy is rampant in India. Whether it is "good or bad for the country" is debatable, but the fact that it exists is not.
  - kamaal 15y ago
    Oh! True, By me asking to build business which add value I did a big mistake, but him by pointing the whole nation to be of people who are pirates has done a very great thing. By the way bashing India to get moments of glory has become fashionable for many Indians these days. They do it all the time, to get visas abroad or settle down abroad. If there is so much problem here, why don't you guys leave this place and go and settle down in your promised land.
    - pm90 15y ago
      I'm going to ignore your potshots, and focus on the few points that are worth commenting on. By me asking to build business which add value I did a big mistake, but him by pointing the whole nation to be of people who are pirates has done a very great thing Firstly, he did not assert that the whole nation is pirates. He said most are involved in piracy, which is pretty much the truth. Again, you fail to address the points which asto made, instead you are just complaining and generalizing about anyone who speaks against you. The only way to improve a problem is by acknowledging it first. Denying a problem exists/ brushing off with flimsy reasons will just aggravate it.
      - kamaal 15y ago
        I will end this too. But I am not able to understand what problem young entrepreneurs actually have. I know for sure that as a nation we are honest people. We pay for stuff as we always have been. The problem is simple, India is a different nation and you need to build stuff that solves peoples problem and they will buy those solutions from you. For a moment I can't imagine why anybody would blame the whole nation just because one start up failed. Or a certain part of the nation pirated something, which by the way happens around the globe. Most of such people are basically wannabe westerners and for whatever reason they just want to run from here. May be they think its honey and milk outside. Or may be they just want to go and settle down abroad. All that is understandable and we Indians have no problems with that, but don't defame a whole nation to justify your actions. Writing books, blog posts and publicly ridiculing a whole nation just so that you can get your moments of glory outside. My advice to any person starting a start up in India would be simple and straight. Understand what problems people have and solve them, give them a good pricing and people will buy it. This is what big successes of India have been doing. This is what Tata's and Ambani's did, This is what NRN's and Premji's or the modern era did. They gave value to people at affordable prices. They built industries and sectors that has fueled India's growth for a decades now. None of them wanted hit and run success with a tiny 3 web page MVC website and then expected the entire nation to make them millionaires regardless of whether the product they sold was useful to them. They faced numerous failure but they did go on and blame the whole nation for that. They looked internally and solved their problems. Focus and build stuff that matters. Give a good pricing. The market here is huge. People will buy.

by asto 15y ago

kamaal 15y ago

Auto drivers are no bigger assholes than us software engineers, to be really telling frankly. If a software engineer can hop jobs every year without adding even 6 months of value to a company and he submits false rent receipts to save taxes(Which is stealing or fleecing as your describe the national treasury by the way)or when he reads online forums in the day time instead of working(which is fleecing the company by the way) etc. We should not point fingers at other occupations and pass sweeping generalizations on other people. This is the classic Indian mentality. We expect the poor to remain poor. An Auto driver is not supposed to earn well. The son of a cab driver like me is not supposed to be an engineer and earning well. And if we work hard and succeed we are assumed to be crossing our bounds. And the traditional Indian crowd can't stand this. But my point stands true right. The digital meters sell because there is a demand, and there is a value to it. Business demands value.

pm90 15y ago
We should not point fingers at other occupations and pass sweeping generalizations on other people. You ask him to refrain from making generalizations, but YOU are the one that is making a lot of them. Nobody said that they don't want you to succeed because you are the son of a taxi driver, there was no need to even mention it in an anonymous online forum. It is YOU who is trying to get sympathy from this fact. Please try to understand what you are doing. I must say that I agree with asto; you have not countered his assertions, skirted but not tackled his points. It is an undeniable fact that piracy is rampant in India. Whether it is "good or bad for the country" is debatable, but the fact that it exists is not.
- kamaal 15y ago
  Oh! True, By me asking to build business which add value I did a big mistake, but him by pointing the whole nation to be of people who are pirates has done a very great thing. By the way bashing India to get moments of glory has become fashionable for many Indians these days. They do it all the time, to get visas abroad or settle down abroad. If there is so much problem here, why don't you guys leave this place and go and settle down in your promised land.
  - pm90 15y ago
    I'm going to ignore your potshots, and focus on the few points that are worth commenting on. By me asking to build business which add value I did a big mistake, but him by pointing the whole nation to be of people who are pirates has done a very great thing Firstly, he did not assert that the whole nation is pirates. He said most are involved in piracy, which is pretty much the truth. Again, you fail to address the points which asto made, instead you are just complaining and generalizing about anyone who speaks against you. The only way to improve a problem is by acknowledging it first. Denying a problem exists/ brushing off with flimsy reasons will just aggravate it.
    - kamaal 15y ago
      I will end this too. But I am not able to understand what problem young entrepreneurs actually have. I know for sure that as a nation we are honest people. We pay for stuff as we always have been. The problem is simple, India is a different nation and you need to build stuff that solves peoples problem and they will buy those solutions from you. For a moment I can't imagine why anybody would blame the whole nation just because one start up failed. Or a certain part of the nation pirated something, which by the way happens around the globe. Most of such people are basically wannabe westerners and for whatever reason they just want to run from here. May be they think its honey and milk outside. Or may be they just want to go and settle down abroad. All that is understandable and we Indians have no problems with that, but don't defame a whole nation to justify your actions. Writing books, blog posts and publicly ridiculing a whole nation just so that you can get your moments of glory outside. My advice to any person starting a start up in India would be simple and straight. Understand what problems people have and solve them, give them a good pricing and people will buy it. This is what big successes of India have been doing. This is what Tata's and Ambani's did, This is what NRN's and Premji's or the modern era did. They gave value to people at affordable prices. They built industries and sectors that has fueled India's growth for a decades now. None of them wanted hit and run success with a tiny 3 web page MVC website and then expected the entire nation to make them millionaires regardless of whether the product they sold was useful to them. They faced numerous failure but they did go on and blame the whole nation for that. They looked internally and solved their problems. Focus and build stuff that matters. Give a good pricing. The market here is huge. People will buy.